transhuman rights

[Skepdick]

Yes, it would be. Fraud is sumthin' copyright defends against.

All minarchists forget about minarchism when their own interests need protecting with a government.

[henry quirk]

As it has always been, so it is even more true in 2021. Ideas are a dime a dozen - knowledge is published as open source.

Ideas don't matter - the execution of ideas matters. 1% inspiration. 99% perspiration.

Intellectual Property advocates are just bummed about the fact that merely producing ideas is not profitable anymore, so they want protection against people who can execute better.

The novelist didn't merely produce ideas. He wrote the book, sold the limited right to publish to a specific house. He exercises control over his property in the same way you exercise control over yours or Advocate, his.

[Advocate]

[quote="henry quirk" post_id=504002 time=1616590851 user_id=472]
[quote=Skepdick post_id=503957 time=1616569480 user_id=17350]
As it has always been, so it is even more true in 2021. Ideas are a dime a dozen - knowledge is published as open source.

Ideas don't matter - the execution of ideas matters. 1% inspiration. 99% perspiration.

Intellectual Property advocates are just bummed about the fact that merely producing ideas is not profitable anymore, so they want protection against people who can execute better.
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The novelist didn't merely [i]produce ideas[/i]. He wrote the book, sold the limited right to publish to a specific house. He exercises control over his property in the same way you exercise control over yours or Advocate, his.
[/quote]

The people who "own" most of the ideas did nothing to produce anything, they just bought them. Even if the system was hypothetically good for producers, it's nothing of the sort in practice.

[henry quirk]

Yes, it would be. Fraud is sumthin' copyright defends against.

All minarchists forget about minarchism when their own interests need protecting with a government.

Since the whole point of a minarchy is safeguard individual life, liberty, and property, I'm not seein' how you've earned a cookie with your lil bitty snark.

Nope, no cookie for you.

[Advocate]

[quote="Gary Childress" post_id=503955 time=1616568930 user_id=6477]
[quote="henry quirk" post_id=503753 time=1616505234 user_id=472]
[b]Ideas belong to no one.[/b]

So, if someone had a mind to take TheWholeStory and make a buck on it, you'd have no objections?
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You know, Advocate might be on to something. I think that it would "spread the wealth" more as well as create more wealth if people could just do whatever they want with anything that is published or created. Get rid of the whole copyright or patent system.
[/quote]

Hard to tell whether that's sarcasm but you were on to something from the start. Eliminate Copyright would produce a cultural renaissance like no one has ever dreamed of, reduce everyone's entertainment budget to zero, as it should be, instantly, and give everyone easy access to all tools and information needed for ordinary living.

And then there's the progression we'd get from having a sharing culture in general.

[henry quirk]

As it has always been, so it is even more true in 2021. Ideas are a dime a dozen - knowledge is published as open source.

Ideas don't matter - the execution of ideas matters. 1% inspiration. 99% perspiration.

Intellectual Property advocates are just bummed about the fact that merely producing ideas is not profitable anymore, so they want protection against people who can execute better.

The novelist didn't merely produce ideas. He wrote the book, sold the limited right to publish to a specific house. He exercises control over his property in the same way you exercise control over yours or Advocate, his.

*The people who "own" most of the ideas did nothing to produce anything, they just bought them. Even if the system was hypothetically good for producers, it's nothing of the sort in practice.

*Meaning the originators of those ideas chose to sell them...not seein' the problem.

Let's say Skep writes a particularly ingenious piece of code. He can...

*lease it to others

*sell it outright

*sit on it (reserve its use to himself)

It's his property to use, to sell, to lease, to profit from, as he likes.

[Gary Childress]

Ideas belong to no one.

So, if someone had a mind to take TheWholeStory and make a buck on it, you'd have no objections?

You know, Advocate might be on to something. I think that it would "spread the wealth" more as well as create more wealth if people could just do whatever they want with anything that is published or created. Get rid of the whole copyright or patent system.

Hard to tell whether that's sarcasm but you were on to something from the start. Eliminate Copyright would produce a cultural renaissance like no one has ever dreamed of, reduce everyone's entertainment budget to zero, as it should be, instantly, and give everyone easy access to all tools and information needed for ordinary living.

And then there's the progression we'd get from having a sharing culture in general.

Not being sarcastic? Why do you think it was sarcastic?

[Advocate]

[quote="Gary Childress" post_id=504144 time=1616647825 user_id=6477]
[quote=Advocate post_id=504006 time=1616591336 user_id=15238]
[quote="Gary Childress" post_id=503955 time=1616568930 user_id=6477]


You know, Advocate might be on to something. I think that it would "spread the wealth" more as well as create more wealth if people could just do whatever they want with anything that is published or created. Get rid of the whole copyright or patent system.
[/quote]

Hard to tell whether that's sarcasm but you were on to something from the start. Eliminate Copyright would produce a cultural renaissance like no one has ever dreamed of, reduce everyone's entertainment budget to zero, as it should be, instantly, and give everyone easy access to all tools and information needed for ordinary living.

And then there's the progression we'd get from having a sharing culture in general.
[/quote]

Not being sarcastic? Why do you think it was sarcastic?
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"Do whatever they want" sounds like part of a typical straw man around these parts?

And the good artists and such will find ways to get paid; they're creative. And people will want to pay for originals of famous works.