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Re: The Death of Free Will

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Walker wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:29 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:54 pm Do you think there IS an "animal variant"? I don't know of any animal that says to itself, "Things around here aren't right, and they should be different."
They say to themselves in animalese, "Hungry!"
Well, they certainly don't have that word, and "animalese" is a language I've never noted to exist. But that's beside the point entirely. The question is, "Do animals imagine scenarios in which things are better/different than they are now?"

Only humans seem to do that. If animals did, we'd never know...but we have no reason to suppose they ever have such a thought. After all, after the amount of time they've had on the planet, if they had the slightest inkling of how to make things better or different, we'd see some evidence of it by now. Chimp + millions of years should = ethics, or art, or culture of some kind, if they had even a modicum of potential for the same, since the posited time-spans are so huge. But they have zippo.
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