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Re: personhood

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henry quirk wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:17 am
gaffo wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:49 am
henry quirk wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:55 pm what is a person?
Corporations, just ask Alito and his brethren.

Citizen's United - like Plessy vs furgusson the century before.

both oporent both fully legal both the worse rulling in centuries.

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but hey Corporations are people and money is speech - you voted for Agent Orange, and he affirm$$ money as speech and Corps as good folks, so you are fine and dandy.
you voted for Agent Orange

yes, I did

wanna know why, or are you happy just throwin' crap at me?

as for personhood...

as I say: there seem to be three broad strains of thought on the subject

1-personhood is bestowed

2-personhood is intrinsic

3-personhood is illusion

most here have no real interest in the subject

you?
me, i think the concept of Corps = people is the untimate corp capture of America.

CU ruling is criminal, and fully legal, just as FP prior when slavery was fully legal.

#2 is the reality for me, and i do not affirm corporations as persons.

but our SC - Alito is a charmer! gotta love him - says they are.

so bend over Henry.
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Re: personhood

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gaffo wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:39 am
henry quirk wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:17 am
gaffo wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:49 am

Corporations, just ask Alito and his brethren.

Citizen's United - like Plessy vs furgusson the century before.

both oporent both fully legal both the worse rulling in centuries.

-

but hey Corporations are people and money is speech - you voted for Agent Orange, and he affirm$$ money as speech and Corps as good folks, so you are fine and dandy.
you voted for Agent Orange

yes, I did

wanna know why, or are you happy just throwin' crap at me?

as for personhood...

as I say: there seem to be three broad strains of thought on the subject

1-personhood is bestowed

2-personhood is intrinsic

3-personhood is illusion

most here have no real interest in the subject

you?
me, i think the concept of Corps = people is the untimate corp capture of America.

CU ruling is criminal, and fully legal, just as FP prior when slavery was fully legal.

#2 is the reality for me, and i do not affirm corporations as persons.

but our SC - Alito is a charmer! gotta love him - says they are.

so bend over Henry.
so bend over Henry

yeah, I'll pass...thanks anyway
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Re: personhood

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henry quirk wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:42 am
gaffo wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:39 am
henry quirk wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:17 am

you voted for Agent Orange

yes, I did

wanna know why, or are you happy just throwin' crap at me?

as for personhood...

as I say: there seem to be three broad strains of thought on the subject

1-personhood is bestowed

2-personhood is intrinsic

3-personhood is illusion

most here have no real interest in the subject

you?
me, i think the concept of Corps = people is the untimate corp capture of America.

CU ruling is criminal, and fully legal, just as FP prior when slavery was fully legal.

#2 is the reality for me, and i do not affirm corporations as persons.

but our SC - Alito is a charmer! gotta love him - says they are.

so bend over Henry.
so bend over Henry

yeah, I'll pass...thanks anyway
So to clearify, you are a 1-percenter plutocract, love corps and dream one day you can join them.

corps a people, and you firvent wish is to be a copr.

fuck the proles lik e me and the other 99-pecenters.

lovely view oligarch.

Corporate capture of my Republic is fine by you - you being a 1-percenter oligarch.

thanks for clearifying your stand 1-percenter.

so you are like Judas, and have a price, they bought you. lovely.
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Re: personhood

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So Henery and i agree on affirming Natural Law - and a gov that does negate is tirany.

but unlike henry, (wen gobal corps rule over gov bia buying out...........hey its ok for them to remove my liberty)who is a corp asskisser 1 perrcenter -he affirms global corps when they buy out my gov, become "the gov" and so do and will negate my natural law liberty.

i do not affirm corporate power to negate my natural law liberty,

henry is fine with it. - so i guess i am more libeertarian thnt henry - thoough i am left and he is right.........riech?
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Re: personhood

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gaffo wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:16 am
henry quirk wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:42 am
gaffo wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:39 am

me, i think the concept of Corps = people is the untimate corp capture of America.

CU ruling is criminal, and fully legal, just as FP prior when slavery was fully legal.

#2 is the reality for me, and i do not affirm corporations as persons.

but our SC - Alito is a charmer! gotta love him - says they are.

so bend over Henry.
so bend over Henry

yeah, I'll pass...thanks anyway
So to clearify, you are a 1-percenter plutocract, love corps and dream one day you can join them.

nope, wrong, do not pass go, do not collect $200

corps a people, and you firvent wish is to be a copr.

fuck the proles lik e me and the other 99-pecenters.

lovely view oligarch.

Corporate capture of my Republic is fine by you - you being a 1-percenter oligarch.

thanks for clearifying your stand 1-percenter.

so you are like Judas, and have a price, they bought you. lovely.
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Re: personhood

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henry quirk wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:23 am
gaffo wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:16 am
henry quirk wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:42 am

so bend over Henry

yeah, I'll pass...thanks anyway
So to clearify, you are a 1-percenter plutocract, love corps and dream one day you can join them.

nope, wrong, do not pass go, do not collect $200

corps a people, and you firvent wish is to be a copr.

fuck the proles lik e me and the other 99-pecenters.

lovely view oligarch.

Corporate capture of my Republic is fine by you - you being a 1-percenter oligarch.

thanks for clearifying your stand 1-percenter.

so you are like Judas, and have a price, they bought you. lovely.
so just a pleab like me, only a wannabe lackey - carry water for the oligarcchs.

thanks for clariftying.
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Re: personhood

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gaffo wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:26 am
henry quirk wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:23 am
gaffo wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:16 am

So to clearify, you are a 1-percenter plutocract, love corps and dream one day you can join them.

nope, wrong, do not pass go, do not collect $200

corps a people, and you firvent wish is to be a copr.

fuck the proles lik e me and the other 99-pecenters.

lovely view oligarch.

Corporate capture of my Republic is fine by you - you being a 1-percenter oligarch.

thanks for clearifying your stand 1-percenter.

so you are like Judas, and have a price, they bought you. lovely.
so just a pleab like me, only a wannabe lackey - carry water for the oligarcchs.

thanks for clariftying.
nope, wrong, do not pass go, do not collect $200
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Re: personhood

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henry quirk wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:31 am
gaffo wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:26 am
henry quirk wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:23 am
so just a pleab like me, only a wannabe lackey - carry water for the oligarcchs.

thanks for clariftying.
nope, wrong, do not pass go, do not collect $200
whatever, outside of you and i affirming Natural Law (violations of it by corporatins seems fine by you), your entire political philosophy seems to be "get off my lawn".

that vision is too bleak for me.


sadly it seems you have little to contribute via your political viewss.

from what i can tell its.

1. get off my lawn
2. whats mine is mine
3. gov power is bad (but corp power and buying out and controlling gov is a-ok).
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Re: personhood

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gaffo wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:38 am whatever, outside of you and i affirming Natural Law (violations of it by corporatins seems fine by you), your entire political philosophy seems to be "get off my lawn".

that vision is too bleak for me.


sadly it seems you have little to contribute via your political viewss.

from what i can tell its.

1. get off my lawn
2. whats mine is mine
3. gov power is bad (but corp power and buying out and controlling gov is a-ok).
nope, wrong, do not pass go, do not collect $200
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Re: personhood

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henry quirk wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:51 am
gaffo wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:38 am whatever, outside of you and i affirming Natural Law (violations of it by corporatins seems fine by you), your entire political philosophy seems to be "get off my lawn".

that vision is too bleak for me.


sadly it seems you have little to contribute via your political viewss.

from what i can tell its.

1. get off my lawn
2. whats mine is mine
3. gov power is bad (but corp power and buying out and controlling gov is a-ok).
nope, wrong, do not pass go, do not collect $200
ya. as i thought.
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Re: personhood

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ya. as i thought.
nope, wrong, do not pass go, do not collect $200

you're too drunk to read & understand, as usual
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