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Veritas Aequitas
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The 'Independent External World' is Kindergarten Stuff.

Post by Veritas Aequitas » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:49 am

The "Independent External World" this is actually kindergarten stuff.

Any small child can sense the sweet on the table is out of his reach and is external to himself. Then the child grow up to understand there is a whole world and universe that is external to his personal and physical self. This is ABC.

The fact is all humans are 'programmed' to direct their attention to what is outside of them, i.e. the external world to look out for food,mate, and threats to ensure their survival.

As inherent, the majority of humans are enslaved by the primal instinct to insist on an independent external word and do not have a clue how they themselves are fully entangled [part and parcel] of the reality they are in.

This is why philosophy-proper commanded one to "Know Thyself" and investigate inward and how this inner-ness and entangled with the external_ness and in that sense, from a higher philosophical perspective, there is no absolutely independent external world.

When one is stuck with the view that there is only an independent external world, one is merely doing kindergarten philosophy.
This is the view of the Philosophical Realists;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_realism

However when one move up and progress from the above to understand reality and the external world is ultimately entangled with the human conditions, then one has graduated as a PhD in philosophy.
At this stage, the philosopher whilst taken care of basic survival value is able to shift to the higher gears of life with greater meanings of life [wisdom, moral] and human values.

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Re: The 'Independent External World' is Kindergarten Stuff.

Post by tapaticmadness » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:09 am

Veritas Aequitas wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:49 am
The "Independent External World" this is actually kindergarten stuff.

Any small child can sense the sweet on the table is out of his reach and is external to himself. Then the child grow up to understand there is a whole world and universe that is external to his personal and physical self. This is ABC.

The fact is all humans are 'programmed' to direct their attention to what is outside of them, i.e. the external world to look out for food,mate, and threats to ensure their survival.

As inherent, the majority of humans are enslaved by the primal instinct to insist on an independent external word and do not have a clue how they themselves are fully entangled [part and parcel] of the reality they are in.

This is why philosophy-proper commanded one to "Know Thyself" and investigate inward and how this inner-ness and entangled with the external_ness and in that sense, from a higher philosophical perspective, there is no absolutely independent external world.

When one is stuck with the view that there is only an independent external world, one is merely doing kindergarten philosophy.
This is the view of the Philosophical Realists;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_realism

However when one move up and progress from the above to understand reality and the external world is ultimately entangled with the human conditions, then one has graduated as a PhD in philosophy.
At this stage, the philosopher whilst taken care of basic survival value is able to shift to the higher gears of life with greater meanings of life [wisdom, moral] and human values.
Yes, I think many people today and in the past would agree with you. I have read many such presentations. Realists, though, are of a different opinion and would differ. Such is philosophical thought.

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