All Philosophies Reduced to Realism vs Idealism

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FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:17 am Your specialness and huge importance has been noted, thank you for reminding us.
I am neither special nor important despite you insisting otherwise, but I do have the tendency to be right. A lot.

Address my point and might just convince yourself.

Or don't. Every religion needs naive followers - even Philosophy.
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Skepdick wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:18 am I do have the tendency to be right. A lot.
Your magnificence has been noted too. Thank you for reminding us of that.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:44 am Your magnificence has been noted too. Thank you for reminding us of that.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

In what words must it be explained to you that what you are confusing for my "magnificence" or my "ego" is merely the power of my "argument" (if you so will) to undermine your entire system?

You have no foundations - a point which you concede over and over. So upon what foundation do you insist on the factuality of "philosophical problems" - they exist only in the vacuum of the Philosophical system.
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Skepdick wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:11 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:44 am Your magnificence has been noted too. Thank you for reminding us of that.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

In what words must it be explained to you that what you are confusing for my "magnificence" or my "ego" is merely the power of my "argument" (if you so will) to undermine your entire system?

You have no foundations - a point which you concede over and over. So upon what foundation do you insist on the factuality of "philosophical problems" - they exist only in the vacuum of the Philosophical system.
I'm only responding to you at all because I despise this thread, so you may as well hijack it to punish Aquafresh for dragging me into such a pathetic argument.

That vacuum of philosophy is the framework within which the OP - such as it is - was advanced, and thereby the one in which it is relevant to inspect it. Your global objection to the entire enterprise is noted, and your conviction and persistence are noted too. Unfortunately you've had plenty of opportunity to become interesting, and you didn't do that.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:33 pm I'm only responding to you at all because I despise this thread, so you may as well hijack it to punish Aquafresh for dragging me into such a pathetic argument.

That vacuum of philosophy is the framework within which the OP - such as it is - was advanced, and thereby the one in which it is relevant to inspect it. Your global objection to the entire enterprise is noted, and your conviction and persistence are noted too. Unfortunately you've had plenty of opportunity to become interesting, and you didn't do that.
Your insistence that everybody's job here is to be "interesting" and "entertaining" to you has been noted. Thanks for reminding us of that.

To my previous suggestions, if you opened all of your argumentation/counter-argumentation with "I just want to be entertained!" it would be much easier to dismiss all of your objections.
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Skepdick wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:39 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:33 pm I'm only responding to you at all because I despise this thread, so you may as well hijack it to punish Aquafresh for dragging me into such a pathetic argument.

That vacuum of philosophy is the framework within which the OP - such as it is - was advanced, and thereby the one in which it is relevant to inspect it. Your global objection to the entire enterprise is noted, and your conviction and persistence are noted too. Unfortunately you've had plenty of opportunity to become interesting, and you didn't do that.
Your insistence that everybody's job here is to be "interesting" and "entertaining" to you has been noted. Thanks for reminding us of that.

To my previous suggestions, if you opened all of your argumentation/counter-argumentation with "I just want to be entertained!" it would be much easier to dismiss all of your objections.
Think of it more like a quid pro quo. The attention you constantly demand is only available if you are interesting in some way. Dealing with you is a lot of unrewarding effort, and I don't seem to be the only one who is losing interest in that.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:50 pm Think of it more like a quid pro quo. The attention you constantly demand is only available if you are interesting in some way. Dealing with you is a lot of unrewarding effort, and I don't seem to be the only one who is losing interest in that.
Think of it this way. The "attention I constantly demand" is me pointing out the the chasm under philosophy's feet, which you happily pretend does not exist.

You haven't put in the necessary effort to get the reward you think you deserve. You are regurgitating the same 2000 year old nonsense as Aristotle.
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Your specialness and huge importance has been noted, thank you for reminding us.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:32 pm Your specialness and huge importance has been noted, thank you for reminding us.
You used that dismissal tactic already. Try a more interesting one.

Just so you don't bother wasting time with other pejoratives - I called myself Skepdick so that you can be assured I certainly agree with you on the nature of my character. Your "attention" and "admiration" is not required - spare that for your wife.

I am an obnoxious and disrespectful dick. Apparently that doesn't diminish the veracity of my point.
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Re: All Philosophies Reduced to Realism vs Idealism

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Skepdick wrote:
What is a problem ? Is it a real thing or an abstract thing ? Do problems exist ?
The existence of problems is ONLY a factual claim within a framework / system such as Philosophy
What from a practical perspective is the definition of a problem ? That is a phenomenon without an ideal solution
So it is not just something restricted to abstract systems but also something with actual real world consequences
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surreptitious57 wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:40 pm What from a practical perspective is the definition of a problem ?
My conception of a "problem" is something that OUGHT to be different than what it is currently the case.
If nothing needs to be different, if nothing OUGHT to change then there's no problem.

Which leaves philosophy in a rather peculiar place.

OUGHT anything change, or OUGHT we adhere to Hume's guillotine?
surreptitious57 wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:40 pm That is a phenomenon without an ideal solution
So it is not just something restricted to abstract systems but also something with actual real world consequences
The word "solution" is pretty meaningless if there is no problem.

If there is a "problem" - the solution is the consequence.
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