Sculptor wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:49 pm
Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:54 am
Sculptor wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:02 pm
No counter, just a simplification.
A circle is 2D. Real things are 3D.
Circles do exist in 3D things.
No. Circles are conceptual only.
Note the image of a 3D circle on the paper I posted above.
Circles cannot EXIST. Circles are only 2D concepts.
Generally the meaning of a circle refer to something which is circular, e.g.
"Draw a circle 30 centimetres in circumference."
I don't see how such a circle cannot exist empirically?
If we draw such a circle on paper, there is still a height to it represented by the molecules of the graphite particles of the pencil.
A circle is basically a geometry concept of a shape with precise defined measurements and qualities.
My point is an empirical circle, e.g. a drawn or constructed circle exists but the perfect circle as a mathematical concept cannot exists as real but only in the heads of subjects in consensus.
To be obvious, a more distinct 3D would be a circular round object.
So the question is still applicable, an absolutely perfectly round marble is an impossibility to be real.
You might light to try the idea of a "sphere", Which, although 3D, cannot exist perfectly.
Except to the ignorant, it is obvious a sphere as defined with dented top and bottom cannot be a circular round object.
The circular round marble is a good example.
A perfect circular round marble is where any plane of the marble with its core center will have a circumference of a perfect circle.
A Circular round marbles exists empirically as real but it is impossible for a perfect circular round marbles to exist as real empirically and philosophically. This is because we will never find a marble where any plane measured will have its circumference as a perfect circle.
Note my point re marble above
If we were to expand that marble to the size of Earth, there will be holes, valleys and mountains which mean it cannot be an absolutely perfectly round marble. The other exposition is, to the smallest virus the surface of a supposedly perfect marble seen by humans, the virus would perceived holes, and irregular shapes.
My OP Re: Is a Perfect Circle Real is to support the point,
What is real are empirical things which can be justified with rationality and philosophy.
However as I had proven with the circle, a perfect circle is impossible to be real empirically within sensibility, understanding and rationality.
Just as a circle, no perfect empirical things can exist as real, i.e. impossible to be real.
Therefore a perfect God that can answer prayers, grant eternal life in heaven, etc. cannot exist are real [as defined] i.e. a perfect God is an impossibility to be real.