Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:52 am
No I am saying they are too obscure and not even right. I am saying they are senseless...as in you cannot see them empirically or understand them through reason and as such they come of as imaginary to your mind.
It would appear you are alluding 'they' as the thing-in-itself which exists independent of humans and are unknowable to humans.
Kant, one of the greatest philosophers of all times has proven things-in-themselves are transcendental illusions.
Note this current thread re Kant;
What I know whatever grounds you can claimed beyond mine is likely to be an illusion, as in Kant's the thing-in-itself independent of human condition can only be an illusion. In this case, it is not an empirical illusion which can easily be detected if we rationalize it BUT rather it is a transcendental illusion mocking you and not easy to detect.
So the illusion is mocking me...does that make it an anthropomorphic...do your illusions talk to you veritas? Do illusions "mock" you? Or are you above illusion?
It is the neural algorithm of an existential crisis inherent within you [and all] that is 'mocking' you to end up with a transcendental illusion of a thing-in-itself.
Note the empirical illusion of the bent-stick-in-between-water-air. It is an instinct no human can avoid but can rationalized as an illusion.
Don't be a coward, expose and explain what is your ground that you are so sure will provide certainty you are 'right.'
I never said I was right, or wrong, rather that right and wrong are assumed.
So your argument is not from your point of view?
I stated right and wrong are grounded on soundly justified argument which in turn must be pragmatic.
According to MAYA it is 'assumed' all of reality is an illusion.
Surely it would be stupid to insist on this assumption if one is standing on the track where there is an oncoming train. In that situation, one will have to quickly shift to the assumption the empirical world is real and one is a real human being.
Your problem is you are unable to shift but stuck in a one-track-mind that
"right and wrong are assumed" or whatever that is in your mind.
The reality is you, me and all are human beings thus psychologically grounded - this we can be certain.
For all issues we face, i.e. intellectually, empirically, philosophically and the likes, the problem, and issue, must be reduced to the psychological and not the ontological nor metaphysics.