Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:43 am
The human being is just a sophisticated version of a tubeworm, it's got no more meaning or purpose other than the function of every other living functioning creature.
F: - - - Surely you do not consider yourself to be equivalent to a worm. - - -
Knowledge of birth and death is a fictional story arising within the sentience self aware creature that is unique to the human being who believes it has a mind. But on closer inspection it can be seen that the mind of knowledge informs only the illusion of separation aka the dream of being within a space-time duality, in that concepts known are known by NOT-A-THING known, and that the mind is the only APPARENT divider of reality. . albeit illusory. Concepts aka knowledge is that which mind is identified with within it's own illusory constructed world of separation as existing in and of itself...but is NOT
However, there is no mind in reality.
F: - - - - Are you not really reading this, are you mind-less? - - -
There is no reality, for infinity never happens/happened except in the illusory dream of separation that is the apparent mind of things, aka imagination.
F: - - - If you want me to take that seriously, I’ll take the risk of falling into a mental trap that you may have set-up. Look at some simple facts.Take a matchstick or your ruler or any length, and multiply such length by 2. Keep doubling that distance until it gets beyond your reach, beyond the ceiling of your room, beyond the height of your house, beyond the moon, beyond whatever the most powerful telescope can see. Such distance is beyond our imagination but it’s existence remains an undeniable fact and we have labelled it INFINITY. After this child’s play, decades later, I came to apply the fractional of ½ repeatedly. Make things smaller than small. We may reach a limit of our cutting ability but if we know that a particle exists we have not yet reached infinity. - - -
Therefore in the context of illusory knowledge: That which lives never dies, and That which dies never lives. Except in this illusory conception, within the dream of separation no thing is dreaming. You are THAT and so AM I
F: - - - Are you confusing yourself by not separating facts and fiction? - - -
If there is knowledge of a human birth then that same knowledge that knows human birth can be used to stop human birth from coming into existence.
F: - - - Abortion serves that purpose. The problem is that widely held religious beliefs decree that abortion is murder. Such believers are driven by religious indoctrination (like I was for many decades) or by sentiment or by ignorance or by political ploy. - - -
Knowledge can allow the peace of the unborn to remain unborn, this is simply known because knowledge of the born cannot be known without it's opposite unborn. So the unborn are not missing out on anything at all by not being born. The unborn cannot desire what they have no knowledge of. To bring the unborn into existence knowing what is already known is a violation of the unborns peace. By knowingly creating new lives is sentencing them to death and a life of suffering to boot. Knowledge is suffering. If you had prior knowledge of your entire life existence before you were born would you agree to it? and yet we impose that existence on every new life we choose to recreate. Anything in reality that has knowledge of itself will be born to suffer that same knowledge.
"I was waiting for something extraordinary to happen, but as the years wasted on nothing ever did unless I caused it…" – Charles Bukowski
Infinity never happens/happened. Life is a dream dreamt by no one full stop.
F: - - - Infinity is not a matter of happening. Infinity IS; timeless, no start, no end. - - -
The human model of infinity is inseparable from the figment of self-deception.
F: - - - Deception does not apply to facts. - - -
As philosopher John N. Gray pointed out “ humans cannot live without their illusions”.
For those whose illusions sustain them through life, in that they will replace one illusion with another as long as there is the desire to believe their illusion is real.
F: - - - Granted; they need facts. One may lead a horse to water but one can’t make it drink. - - -