surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:00 pm
I do not think every physical thing is alive
You are not alone there.
I do NOT know of any one "else" YET who thinks that EVERY physical thing is alive. Most adult human beings think exactly like you do in this regard.
surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:00 pm but that given long enough something that is non living and physical can become living and physical
Will you provide some examples of things that you think are non living (and physical) but can become living (and physical)?
Are you also able to explain how this metamorphosis from the non living to living takes place?
surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:00 pmI say this because before life came to exist on Earth there was non life
But there was NO, before life came to exist on earth. Since earth has been existing there has ALWAYS been life, on it and in it. The earth, itself, is living or non living, to you?
Just because 'you', human beings, do not recognize and accept some thing as life, this, itself, does not make it not life.
This, only seeing and putting "other" things
relative to what the human being, itself, is, has NEVER been very helpful in Truly understanding what the Universe IS exactly and how the so called "world" (the Universe) works.
'Trying to' argue 'before life came to exist on earth, there was no life on earth', is like 'trying to' argue 'before the Universe came into existence, there was nothing prior', and then 'trying to' back this up with, there was not even a prior, which is even more farcical.
surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:00 pmbut when this non life became sufficiently complex it then became life
Seriously?
Do you even have an explanation of how life, itself, could actually come from nothing living or from no life previously at all?
Also WHY is "complexity" NEEDED for life to just suddenly appear and begin?
Human beings do have this tendency to just repeat what they have previously heard, without ever seriously questioning what they are told.
Saying some things are "complex" I found is a way human beings 'try to' "justify" to themselves why they do not yet know some thing as well as being a support for their 'superiority complex'. Not having a clue about how they, themselves, even work is explained as way we are just to complex to understand things like this. The absolutely and completely hilarious and contradictory thing of this at all is they, like LIfe and the Universe, Itself, are the most simple and easy thing to understand and fully KNOW. That is; once one has OPENED up to ALL-THERE-IS.
surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:00 pmTo me non life and life are not polar opposites merely different points on the same spectrum
And what is that spectrum exactly?
What do you call that spectrum?
surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:00 pmI call them physics and chemistry and biology rather than life and non life which is too binary
So, where exactly again does that distinction lay alone the spectrum, which splits the non living, dead, non life existing things from the living, alive, and life things?
Remember it is you who says there is non life AND life. Just because you now say that are not polar opposites but merely different points on the same spectrum does not change the fact that it is you who is making the polar opposite distinction of non life FROM life.
I can make a spectrum with different points on it and call that spectrum Life, and it could work. But you obviously could not call your spectrum Life, so what would be the name for your spectrum, which life and non life can both exist on in merely just different points?
Do you have a name for this separating point where life and non life separate. Even on the same spectrum there has to be a specific point where life is separate from non life, if there is even such a thing as non life.
By the way, just telling me what human beings have been seeing and saying is NOT exactly explaining any thing.
Remember it is human beings who are still LOOKING FOR answers, to a lot of questions, and have a lot of problems they are still 'trying to' solve, from which they are continuously only creating more complex problems for themselves, and creating far more questions to be answered. Also, remember to human beings life is complex and hard, whereas, to me, Life is very simple and easy indeed, as I have NO unsolved problems and NO unanswered questions.
There is absolutely nothing that is complex nor hard in Life. In fact just living and being alive is about the most natural, simplest and easy thing that can be done.
But I do LOOK AT and SEE things VERY differently from how 'you', human beings, look at and see things.
I have heard what 'you', human beings, have been saying, arguing over, and fighting about for thousands upon thousands of years, and nothing has really changed at all that much in that department.
Would it really hurt that much to just 'try' and LOOK AT things differently for once?
Just telling me the same old things over and over again that 'you', human beings, SEE and think is true, although humorous, can get rather boring at times.