Age wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:07 pm
Ferdi wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:22 am
surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:04 am
No because to me both plants and a foetus are biological for both are alive
I therefore see all plants and animals as being alive and all bacteria as well
So, if a fetus within the womb is alive, then how can some thing alive not have life yet and just be waiting the arrival of its so called "life"?
When will it, or any one for that matter, know when its "life" has arrived for it?
How does "life" arrive?
Where does "life" come from?
What is "life"?
1 What is LIFE.
LIFE just IS, like infinity just is, beyond our dimensions, beyond our comprehension.
Life commonly comes to our senses in our world at birth. If the new-born does not show signs-of-life, the attendant will apply previous experience to induce the new-born to cry; the most common sound of coming to life.
Prior to its birth, the foetus does not have its own life. It is indeed “alive” in its mother’s womb, has been growing there by being connected to the LIFE of the mother. The foetus heart, beats at its own rate and like all its growing and multiplying cells, is “driven” by the life of the mother. Like your own heart, you are not making it beat, it is your LIFE in ”you” that makes it tick. At birth one may, or may not receive life.
“Being alive” and “having life” are different stages. Think of a package of seeds that you may buy in the shop. You expect those seeds to be viable, i.e. alive and fit to come-to-life. You will not know if the seed will receive life until it hits the appropriate soil conditions to induce life. We cannot see how, or from where life comes. We can only make our human assumption that LIFE must come from our surrounding universe.
We were not asked, we did not ask, we were given no choice to receive life; nor about the surroundings in which we eventually find ourselves to have been born in. Sooner or later we start making decisions. As we grow we find that we are free to choose between good and bad actions, with consequential responsibilities. The humans in our surroundings show their ways and influence us with their answers to our questions. No matter how well intended those answers and their advice, may be Catholic, Mafia, Muslim, Hindu, etc., one’s initial surroundings may lead one astray from what is a ”commonly considered good path” through life.
2 There is a difference between having LIFE and being ALIVE. . Life is what drives the body-and-mind of an individual; the “invisible” power in a battery . One can sense when the individual is still present in a dying person, and some moments later one can sense when the individual has departed. The body without its LIFE still looks like the individual but in fact the body has become so useless that it must be disposed-of before it falls apart. While the corpse has LOST its LIFE, looks dead and is dead, it hides the fact that the fresh corpse consists of ALIVE cells that have lost their coordinating driving force, life, and are left behind to follow their chemical decomposition phase, falling apart into the earthly elements from which they were originally assembled in a womb. While fresh the corpse can provide some still-alive parts for organ transplanting. Medical practice has found that the organ’s cells can be made to re-function again by re-connection to the driving force of LIFE in a foreign body. It made me note: the distinction between being alive and having life.
3 The corpse, without its individual, is usually subjected to funeral ceremonies, speeches to the coffin and burial rituals. Grave stones, statues, mausoleums, large pyramids and their contents are also solid evidence of humans respecting the dead INDIVIDUAL. This is evidence of a natural sensing that there is more to LIFE than meets the eye. Man feels, and science has increasingly confirmed, that everything in the universe appears to have a purpose. It is logical that an individual’s earthly sojourn, although astronomically of insignificant duration, must also serve a purpose. We can only guess what that purpose is. Life is not of our dimensions, we cannot analyse it, but we can definitely sense its absence on death, its presence after birth and feel an appreciation of having been part of someone’s good life.