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RWStanding
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Environmental externalities

Post by RWStanding » Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:14 am

Environmental Externalities:
If any individual has consideration for his children and future generations then he is not an outright individualist believing in personal autonomy and nothing more. Future generations effectively signifies all future humanity and the world, and that is all but altruism. A tyranny or extreme authoritarians society will have a practical view of the world that embraces environmental concerns, and with any luck it will be one that fits with nature. But an overtly altruist society is the most likely to discuss and decide on a philosophy and course that works.
The point of the matter is that all forms of society must at least believe in a working community and world. Very few people are likely to want social chaos and destruction of humanity. Therefore environmental stability is the one thing that should unite all forms of society. Tyranny, Anarchism, and Altruism.
There is however the certainty of different attitudes to commerce and the economy. These are what define the three forms of society in those terms. A tyranny will treat the economy as an organ of the state for its purpose. Anarchistic autonomy will treat the economy as for the immediate benefit of its individual owners, with minimal planning beyond that. Altruist society will treat commerce as a social good for the benefit of all people into the future.
Those differences affect the way environmental externalities are deal with. At least in theory a tyranny may need no artificial means of exchange in money. Anarchistic society will tend to price everything, including nature and the environment generally. Altruist society has the difficult task of valuing everything that is done, and manufactured, in terms of an environmental debit or credit. That means mere economic activity and the making of money may be a folly. An aeroplane may provide little human benefit other than taking people on holiday to spend their resources. Against that there will be CO2 emissions. The use of material resources in making the aircraft. And diversion of labour away from more useful social work into the airline industry. The cost of anything must be calculated in terms of resources exchanged or squandered.

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Re: Environmental externalities

Post by Age » Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:35 am

RWStanding wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:14 am
Environmental Externalities:
If any individual has consideration for his children and future generations then he is not an outright individualist believing in personal autonomy and nothing more. Future generations effectively signifies all future humanity and the world, and that is all but altruism. A tyranny or extreme authoritarians society will have a practical view of the world that embraces environmental concerns, and with any luck it will be one that fits with nature. But an overtly altruist society is the most likely to discuss and decide on a philosophy and course that works.
The point of the matter is that all forms of society must at least believe in a working community and world. Very few people are likely to want social chaos and destruction of humanity. Therefore environmental stability is the one thing that should unite all forms of society. Tyranny, Anarchism, and Altruism.
There is however the certainty of different attitudes to commerce and the economy. These are what define the three forms of society in those terms. A tyranny will treat the economy as an organ of the state for its purpose. Anarchistic autonomy will treat the economy as for the immediate benefit of its individual owners, with minimal planning beyond that. Altruist society will treat commerce as a social good for the benefit of all people into the future.
What label do you have for those people and those societies that see commerce and economy as completely unnecessary things, which do NOT fit in with Nature at all?
RWStanding wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:14 am
Those differences affect the way environmental externalities are deal with. At least in theory a tyranny may need no artificial means of exchange in money. Anarchistic society will tend to price everything, including nature and the environment generally. Altruist society has the difficult task of valuing everything that is done, and manufactured, in terms of an environmental debit or credit. That means mere economic activity and the making of money may be a folly. An aeroplane may provide little human benefit other than taking people on holiday to spend their resources. Against that there will be CO2 emissions. The use of material resources in making the aircraft. And diversion of labour away from more useful social work into the airline industry. The cost of anything must be calculated in terms of resources exchanged or squandered.

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