Re: Past, PRESENT--future?
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:22 pm
The future is not real YET, Skepdick.
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I do get what you have said. That is why I am asking you the questions which I am asking you.
It has also been said that what happens or has happened is what is really happening or has really happened, but they are not reality. 'Reality' is what we MAKE happen.
But we can have a concept and really make it happen or make it really happen, so that it becomes reality.
'Time' is nothing more than just a word we use, which helps to describe the process that we use when 'trying to' "separate" the one and only continuous event of NOW.
Some one once said something like; the faster we travel the slower time goes, and at the speed of light time stops. This is not at all true. What happens is the faster we go it just APPEARS as though time slows down.
The future may NEVER arrive, but is this because it is also always HERE, in the NOW?Richardmc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:31 am Future time only exists as a concept. Everything happens now- it is always now. This includes time, which always starts and happens now. Being conscious is being here now. Time passing is dynamic moments of now, now, now, etc. The future, meanwhile, NEVER arrives."
Because human beings worry. They worry about what COULD, but may not, HAPPEN. Most human beings do not want to stop living so they put on their seat belts so as to avoid dying.Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:30 pmI do get what you have said. That is why I am asking you the questions which I am asking you.
If "Future time does not exist except as a concept", why are you wearing a seatbelt?
Your future car crash is only a concept. It's not real. Why is the not-real future having an effect on the present?
Why worry about things that aren't "real"?
Maybe the person has not formulated how to word it correctly yet, for you?
If the future is not real to you, then losing your job, your home, your money and your health is not real.jayjacobus wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:41 pm Because you can lose your job, your home, your money and your health in the future.
All the time! The future is real It's more real than the past.
So, if you buy insurance, then you would agree that you do not know what the real future is YET, or you do not know what will really happen in the future YET, correct?Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:52 pmIf the future is not real to you, then losing your job, your home, your money and your health is not real.jayjacobus wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:41 pm Because you can lose your job, your home, your money and your health in the future.
All the time! The future is real It's more real than the past.
Do we move through time or does time move through us or does it not actually matter which one it isDontaskme wrote:
What seems to be moving from past to future in linear time is actually standing perfectly still
There is NO actual thing as time.surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:58 pmDo we move through time or does time move through us or does it not actually matter which one it isDontaskme wrote:
What seems to be moving from past to future in linear time is actually standing perfectly still
I think it exists but some physicists think it could be an illusion but that is too counterintuitive for me
We don't move through time. Time moves through us. 'Us' being the eternal now which is just another word for empty space, which is just another word for empty awareness or beingness or whatever else concept arises here now from the only source available which is the VOID ITSELF...which tends to avoid itself as it prefers to focus on it's known concepts, the only face it has.surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:58 pmDo we move through time or does time move through us or does it not actually matter which one it isDontaskme wrote:
What seems to be moving from past to future in linear time is actually standing perfectly still
I think it exists but some physicists think it could be an illusion but that is too counterintuitive for me