Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:24 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:21 pm
commonsense wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:45 pm
Right. But the focus was on circular beliefs, some of which have extra-planar connections and some of which do not.
I think the dichotomous characteristics of the connections that belong to circular beliefs trivializes the proposition made earlier about such beliefs, however I am having difficulty locating the post in question.
Agree.
If I can elaborate on the "extra-planar connections" using basic math:
1+1 = 2
2 = 1+1, -1+3, -2+4, etc.
All circularity allows for then maintainance of a set of axioms while allowing for progressive variation.
Cycles always are connected to other cycles, and a circular argument thus not necessitate contradiction.
Now as to the ones you do not believe have connections?
This is all good, and circular. As far as concepts go the statements are correct in an absolute sense.
In real life they can be used to represent observable facts, but only approximately.
There are no integers in nature, and no two things can be absolutely identical since no two things can be exact in dimension, time, and space.
5 oranges added to 5 oranges are 10 oranges.
But 1 orange is not equal to another orange.
There is also a lack of straight lines, perfect circles and other shapes. So whilst maths talks about perfect spheres and so forth, no perfection of the sort can be found in nature. Maths even in its own terms creates a series of incommensurable values such as PI, SquR of -1, perhaps because we live in an analogue reality but are trying to squeeze our digital system of integers.
I want to agree.
And I mean I actually want to.
Actually nature is grounded in points, lines and circles strictly because of its atomic nature.
1. All phenomenon from a distance are always point particles in the context of the space in which they are observed. Upon closer inspection the phenomenon is composed of point particles (jagged edges, etc.)
2. All particles in nature moving from a point A position to Point B position do so in a straight line. Even a simple curves, in a wave, requires the Crest of the wave to go up and down. The curves, as a particle, always requires a particle to move from point A to point B. A curve is composed of a less than infinite number of angles.
This is evidences strictly because a particle, when dividing/multiplying, always does so in a linear direction.
3. The repetition of events in nature, such as the repetition of a particle, is always a cycling of a variation of the same thing. Upon first glance a point projected to another point appears as a linear trajectory, but if the point is repeating itself it fundamentally is maintaining itself through a cycle. All repetition is a cycle. For example, A clock turned on its side would observe a simple point go back and forth causing it to repeat it's original position.
Quantity and quality are inseperable.
1) 1 point manifesting into two points observes the creation of distance, as a quality, by a change in quantity. 1 point inverting to 2 points observes quantity begets "quality" through distance.
2) A single line between any two points is always composed of infinite points between the two points as the progression of one point to another requires position A then position B then C, etc.
Distance as a quality is dually a quantity of one set of infinities, evidenced by the line. All quantities are actually infinities. The line takes on an actual distance when it is divided into further lines, thus necessitating individuation.
One line individuates into two lines. This is the first understanding of measurable distance using a grounding standard (ie the 1 infinite line). The 1 line as two lines observes simulateous multiplication and division.
Multiplication as two lines, each a replication of the original where anyone standing alone (as infinite) is the same as another.
Division where each line is 1/2 of the original line that exist as a set.
Quality thus begets quantity, considering quality begins with a continuum (the line as infinite points).
3. Quantity and quality alternate through eachother through a cycle. Either one can be taken first only if assumed as such.
