Spoken like a hardcore materialist who never allows himself/herself to entertain the possibility that there might be way more to life than meets the eye.11011 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:39 pm if selfishness is gaining for one's self at some cost for another (without future compensation to balance), then the most selfish act is gaining entirely for one's self with no benefit whatsoever to the other, only harm.
since appreciation for life or desire to live (and therefore everything else that might be appreciated in life, any sort of compensation) occurs after the fact - after you are born, enter the world, realize you can't easily get out or otherwise feel various internal and external pressures to live - there is absolutely no benefit to being born for the unborn child.
therefore, those who bring such into the world are utterly selfish...
Did it ever occur to you that our momentary presence on earth may simply be the metaphorical “vestibule” of our being that stands between our nonexistence and that of the entrance into eternal life in a higher context of reality?
When we existed as fetuses within the darkness of our mother’s womb, we were completely unaware of the wonders and the higher level of consciousness that awaited us on the other side of her abdominal wall.
In which case, if you can just imagine that we might be in a similar situation with respect to what lies beyond the threshold of death, then perhaps you might be able to understand how misguided your antinatalistic perspective truly is.
The bottom line is that not only is having children one of the most unselfish acts on earth,...
(especially considering the hell that parents go through in raising the little monsters)
...it may very well be the only means for passing-on the most valuable gift in all of reality.