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Re: All Problems are Rooted in Ideology and Intuition

Post by Eodnhoj7 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:21 pm

Logik wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:20 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:18 pm
The problem is symbols and the problem is reason, and they must be negated. But if they are negated, reason as "measurement" occurs and we are left with a new rational process altogether.

Killing philosophy just results in philosophy resurrecting itself.
Why are symbols and reason a problem?
Why must they be negated?
It is the pragmatic thing to do.

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Re: All Problems are Rooted in Ideology and Intuition

Post by Logik » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:24 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:21 pm
It is the pragmatic thing to do.
Why do you want to be pragmatic?

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Re: All Problems are Rooted in Ideology and Intuition

Post by Eodnhoj7 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:26 pm

Logik wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:24 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:21 pm
It is the pragmatic thing to do.
Why do you want to be pragmatic?
I don't.

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Re: All Problems are Rooted in Ideology and Intuition

Post by Logik » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:27 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:26 pm
Logik wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:24 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:21 pm
It is the pragmatic thing to do.
Why do you want to be pragmatic?
I don't.
But you are being pragmatic.

Why be pragmatic?

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Re: All Problems are Rooted in Ideology and Intuition

Post by Eodnhoj7 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:35 pm

Logik wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:27 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:26 pm
Logik wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:24 pm

Why do you want to be pragmatic?
I don't.
But you are being pragmatic.

Why be pragmatic?
You tell me, I am the one pushing you off the cliff.

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Re: All Problems are Rooted in Ideology and Intuition

Post by Logik » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:38 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:35 pm
You tell me, I am the one pushing you off the cliff.
So you lied when you answered ?
You assumed my position instead of yours.

Why lie?
Why push me off the cliff?

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Re: All Problems are Rooted in Ideology and Intuition

Post by Eodnhoj7 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:41 pm

Logik wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:38 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:35 pm
You tell me, I am the one pushing you off the cliff.
So you lied when you answered ?
You assumed my position instead of yours.

Why lie?
Why push me off the cliff?
I didn't lie about anything, a strict pragmatic approach is a lie that throws oneself off a cliff...I just figured I would give you a helping hand...but it seems you are still holding onto the ledge. Should I give you a hand or step on your fingers?

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Re: All Problems are Rooted in Ideology and Intuition

Post by Logik » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:45 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:41 pm
I didn't lie about anything, a strict pragmatic approach is a lie that throws oneself off a cliff...I just figured I would give you a helping hand...but it seems you are still holding onto the ledge. Should I give you a hand or step on your fingers?
You are mis-directing. You don't like the "Why?" spotlight on you.

Why do you want to push me off the cliff?

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Re: All Problems are Rooted in Ideology and Intuition

Post by Eodnhoj7 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:46 pm

Logik wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:45 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:41 pm
I didn't lie about anything, a strict pragmatic approach is a lie that throws oneself off a cliff...I just figured I would give you a helping hand...but it seems you are still holding onto the ledge. Should I give you a hand or step on your fingers?
You are mis-directing. You don't like the "Why?" spotlight on you.

Why do you want to push me off the cliff?
Why project an ad-hominum...all you are doing is directing it at yourself. Why where you looking over a cliff? You don't want to see the bottom?

You are not relative enough.

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Re: All Problems are Rooted in Ideology and Intuition

Post by Logik » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:48 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:46 pm
Why project an ad-hominum...all you are doing is directing it at yourself. Why where you looking over a cliff? You don't want to see the bottom?
Am I projecting? You are the foundationalist. I wasn't looking over any cliffs - you brought the metaphor to the table.

Too bad you can't push a bird off a cliff.

I neither have nor need foundations.
Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:46 pm
You are not relative enough.
Why should I be "relative enough" ?

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Re: All Problems are Rooted in Ideology and Intuition

Post by Eodnhoj7 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:05 pm

Logik wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:48 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:46 pm
Why project an ad-hominum...all you are doing is directing it at yourself. Why where you looking over a cliff? You don't want to see the bottom?
Am I projecting? You are the foundationalist. I wasn't looking over any cliffs - you brought the metaphor to the table.

Too bad you can't push a bird off a cliff.

I neither have nor need foundations.

Relativity is a foundation, and my question is less one of foundations but rather "origins".

Birds fall out of their nests all the time.


Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:46 pm
You are not relative enough.
Why should I be "relative enough" ?

So you are not a relativist?

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Re: All Problems are Rooted in Ideology and Intuition

Post by Logik » Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:14 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:05 pm
Logik wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:48 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:46 pm
Why project an ad-hominum...all you are doing is directing it at yourself. Why where you looking over a cliff? You don't want to see the bottom?
Am I projecting? You are the foundationalist. I wasn't looking over any cliffs - you brought the metaphor to the table.

Too bad you can't push a bird off a cliff.

I neither have nor need foundations.

Relativity is a foundation, and my question is less one of foundations but rather "origins".

Birds fall out of their nests all the time.


Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:46 pm
You are not relative enough.
Why should I be "relative enough" ?

So you are not a relativist?
I am Logik.

I don’t know what it means to be a “relativist”.

All ontological/metaphysical claims are bullshit.

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Re: All Problems are Rooted in Ideology and Intuition

Post by Eodnhoj7 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:20 pm

Logik wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:14 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:05 pm
Logik wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:48 pm

Am I projecting? You are the foundationalist. I wasn't looking over any cliffs - you brought the metaphor to the table.

Too bad you can't push a bird off a cliff.

I neither have nor need foundations.

Relativity is a foundation, and my question is less one of foundations but rather "origins".

Birds fall out of their nests all the time.




Why should I be "relative enough" ?

So you are not a relativist?
I am Logik.

I don’t know what it means to be a “relativist”.

All ontological/metaphysical claims are bullshit.
What a relativistic thing to say.

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Re: All Problems are Rooted in Ideology and Intuition

Post by Logik » Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:25 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:20 pm
Logik wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:14 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:05 pm
I am Logik.

I don’t know what it means to be a “relativist”.

All ontological/metaphysical claims are bullshit.
What a relativistic thing to say.
Is it?

How did you determine that?

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Re: All Problems are Rooted in Ideology and Intuition

Post by Eodnhoj7 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:26 pm

Logik wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:25 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:20 pm
Logik wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:14 pm

I am Logik.

I don’t know what it means to be a “relativist”.

All ontological/metaphysical claims are bullshit.
What a relativistic thing to say.
Is it?

How did you determine that?
Interpretation.

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