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The Dot

Post by Eodnhoj7 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:23 pm

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The most primitive and fundamental of all symbols is the dot.” — Manly P. Hall; Lectures on Ancient Philosophycircumpunct

The ancient symbol known as the dot in the circle, circled dot, circle with a point, or a circumpunct, is one of the oldest symbols known to humans.

According to Gnostics, it is the most primal aspect of God. To Greek philosophers and the Pythagoreans, the circumpunct represents God, or the Monad – the point of the beginning of creation, and eternity. It is the sun of astrologers and astronomers; the alchemical gold of the alchemist, and the Keter of the Kabbalah.

The circle around the dot is the universe or world in which we live. A blank canvas to draw from the circle that which we wish to create. A place to also retreat back from the world when things in life get too chaotic. Erase our problems in ‘order’ to have a clean slate. In a sense, redeeem our souls.

As you can see, the circumpunct is a symbol that can help evolve our souls to become truly illuminated. An enlightened soul who is “I AM.”

In order to know the meaning of this symbol, you first must understand how the world in which we live operates.

The modern man-made world is ruled by chaos which confuses people and often leads their souls astray. Man-u-fact-ured chaos. This is why the motto of the 33rd degree of Freemasonry is ORDO AB CHAO. A Latin term meaning “Order from (out of) Chaos.”

To find order, we must first look within our own selves. You do not find true order within by searching without in books or buying the latest online course from some self-proclaimed enlightened guru who claims they have all the answers.

The whole goal of going within is to find your true soul. To find your true self. To “KNOW THYSELF.”

To KNOW THYSELF, we must go WITHIN THYSELF.

To accomplish this, we must silence the outside world and any chaotic thinking by going within and finding the center of space that is within each one of us. In a sense, meditate. We must often leave the web of the man-made reality of confusion in order to move into the circumpunct where we find clarity and retain our true selves. The knowing of who you are, who you were, and where you are heading.

The symbol to your own individual Gnosis, knowledge, the past, and our mission as an evolving soul in life is contained in the dot within the circle. Our mission is to go there. To be one with the one. To be you.

33rd Freemason, and one of Masonry’s foremost scholars, Manly P. Hall had written about the circumpunct in the Lectures on Ancient Philosophy view;


The keys to all knowledge are contained in the dot, the line, and the circle. The dot is universal consciousness, the line is universal intelligence, and the circle is universal force – the threefold, unknowable Cause of all knowable existence (the three hypostases of Atma). In man the spirit is represented by the dot and conscious activity or intelligence by the line. Conscious activity is the key to intelligence, because consciousness belongs to the sphere of the dot and activity to the sphere of the circle.

The center and the circumference are thus blended in the connecting line – conscious activity or intelligence. The circle is the symbol of body and body is the limit of the radius of the activity of mind power pouring out of the substance of consciousness.

The symbol of the circumpunct is the ancient symbol that helps us realize this truth. If you concentrate on the circumpunct, you can visualize your soul as the dot within the world of which we live.

Think and meditate on the symbol of the circumpunct. This is how knowing the meaning of symbols can help you learn, grow and evolve.

Today you will find the symbol of the circumpunct all over the world. It is featured in the best-selling book by Dan Brown, The Lost Symbol. It’s also the symbol for the consumer shopping giant, Target.





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Below are many more quotes by Manly P. Hall that I believe are perfect, and I think you might agree. They are taken from his book, Lectures on Ancient Philosophy.

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The dot, being most proximate to perfection, is the simplest, and therefore the least imperfect of all symbols.

The dot, moving away from self, projects the line; the line becomes the radius of an imaginary circle, and this circle is the circumference of the powers of the central dot.

Hypothetically, every sun has a periphery where its rays end, every human life a periphery where its influence ceases, every human mind a periphery beyond which it cannot function, and every human heart a periphery beyond which it cannot feel. Somewhere there is a limit to the scope of awareness. The circle is the symbol of this limit. It is the symbol of the vanishing point of central energy. The dot symbolizes the cause; the line, the means; and the circle, the end.

Motion away from self brings a decrease in consciousness and power; motion toward self brings a corresponding increase in consciousness and power. The farther the light ray travels from its source the weaker the ray.

The dot, the line, and the circle are the supreme and primary symbols. The dot is spirit and its symbol in the Chaldaic Hebrew – the Yod – is actually a seed or spermatozoon, a little comma with a twisting tail representing the germ of the not-self. In its first manifestation the dot elongates to form the line. The line is a string of dots made up of germ lives – the monadic lives of Leibnitz. From the seed growing in the earth comes the sprig – the line. The line, therefore, is the symbol of the dot in growth or motion. The sun is a great dot, a monad of life, and each of its rays a line – its own active principle in manifestation. The key thought is: The line is the motion of the dot.

The dot, or Sacred Island, is the beginning of existence, whether that of a universe or a man. The dot is the germ raised upon the surface of infinite duration. The potentialities signified by the blank paper are manifested as active potencies through the dot. Thus the limitless Absolute is manifested in a limited way.

After the dot is placed on the paper it can be rubbed out and the white paper restored to its virgin state. Thus the white paper represents eternity, and the dot, time; and when the dot is erased time is dissolved back into eternity, for time is dependent upon eternity. Therefore in ancient philosophy there are two symbols: the NOTHING and the ONE – the white paper and the dot. Creation traces its origin from the dot – the Primitive Sea, the Egg laid by the White Swan in the field of SPACE.

The dot is the first illusion of the Self, the first limitation of SPACE, even as Spirit is the first limitation of Self. The dot is life localized as a center of power; the blank paper is life unlimited. According to philosophy, the dot must sometime be erased, because nothing but the blank paper is eternal.”

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Re: The Dot

Post by Dalek Prime » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:25 pm

A comma is easier to produce. It's a dot that any drunk can draw.

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Re: The Dot

Post by Eodnhoj7 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:29 pm

Dalek Prime wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:25 pm
A comma is easier to produce. It's a dot that any drunk can draw.
Good point...I should drink when I type my thoughts down...thanks for the inspiration.

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Re: The Dot

Post by Dalek Prime » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:31 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:29 pm
Dalek Prime wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:25 pm
A comma is easier to produce. It's a dot that any drunk can draw.
Good point...I should drink when I type my thoughts down...thanks for the inspiration.

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Cheers

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Btw, it wasn't a good point. It was a good comma :lol:

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Re: The Dot

Post by Eodnhoj7 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:33 pm

Dalek Prime wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:31 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:29 pm
Dalek Prime wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:25 pm
A comma is easier to produce. It's a dot that any drunk can draw.
Good point...I should drink when I type my thoughts down...thanks for the inspiration.

Here:


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Cheers

,

Btw, it wasn't a good point. It was a good comma :lol:
It is a drunk dot...it reminds me I need to regain my discipline and drink more....

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Re: The Dot

Post by Dalek Prime » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:35 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:33 pm
Dalek Prime wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:31 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:29 pm


Good point...I should drink when I type my thoughts down...thanks for the inspiration.

Here:


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Cheers

,

Btw, it wasn't a good point. It was a good comma :lol:
It is a drunk dot...it reminds me I need to regain my discipline and drink more....
Achievement is through repetition and practice.

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Re: The Dot

Post by Eodnhoj7 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:37 pm

Dalek Prime wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:35 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:33 pm
Dalek Prime wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:31 pm


Cheers

,

Btw, it wasn't a good point. It was a good comma :lol:
It is a drunk dot...it reminds me I need to regain my discipline and drink more....
Achievement is through repetition and practice.
I know...I have to learn not to give up when things get hard...alcoholism does not come easily...years of practice and dedication not to mention the difficulty of painting the perfect: ,

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Re: The Dot

Post by Dalek Prime » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:47 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:37 pm
Dalek Prime wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:35 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:33 pm


It is a drunk dot...it reminds me I need to regain my discipline and drink more....
Achievement is through repetition and practice.
I know...I have to learn not to give up when things get hard...alcoholism does not come easily...years of practice and dedication not to mention the difficulty of painting the perfect: ,
If I wasn't so lazy, I think I'd like calligraphy, in particular Chinese, where they use a brush. And sometimes with water, so it fades in a Zen-like fashion after being painted. (Yes, I'm aware zen is Japanese.)

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Re: The Dot

Post by Greta » Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:19 am

Yes, as a "secularist" I know people will think this goes against the grain but I like this piece ⵙ

Of late I've often thought about similar things (and trying to work out how to get the concept into sci fi fiction) in considering atomic and cellular nuclei, the solar system, the galaxy, and so forth ...

It seems to me that entities with this formation can form building blocks of grander, more complex structures.

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Re: The Dot

Post by Nick_A » Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:51 pm

For her part, Simone Weil, in one of her last essays, wrote:

"Toujours le même infiniment petit, qui est infiniment plus que tout."

[Always the same infinitely small, which is infinitely more than all.]
Simone could appreciate the deeper meanings of the circumpunct from not being limited to a dualistic mindset. How can the infinitely small dot be infinitely more than all? Must the idea be condemned as absurd by the dominant dualistic mind?

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Re: The Dot

Post by Eodnhoj7 » Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:05 pm

Greta wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:19 am
Yes, as a "secularist" I know people will think this goes against the grain but I like this piece ⵙ

Of late I've often thought about similar things (and trying to work out how to get the concept into sci fi fiction) in considering atomic and cellular nuclei, the solar system, the galaxy, and so forth ...

It seems to me that entities with this formation can form building blocks of grander, more complex structures.
Points, lines and circles are the constants of the universe either as abstract structures from which all structures form or even in movements we see in everyday life.

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Re: The Dot

Post by Eodnhoj7 » Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:12 pm

Nick_A wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:51 pm
For her part, Simone Weil, in one of her last essays, wrote:

"Toujours le même infiniment petit, qui est infiniment plus que tout."

[Always the same infinitely small, which is infinitely more than all.]
Simone could appreciate the deeper meanings of the circumpunct from not being limited to a dualistic mindset. How can the infinitely small dot be infinitely more than all? Must the idea be condemned as absurd by the dominant dualistic mind?
All phenomena are composed of and compose points relative to their position in space with this position itself following the same form and function as a point. The connection of these points observes the point fundamentally as 1 point in the respect the connection observes a negative dimension conducive to an imaginary seperation where this seperation allows us to observe the one point approximately through many points (which give rise to the various physical, emotional and mental phenomena of our everyday lives which as composed of points mediate us to the point through the points itself).

In these respects the observation of one point through multiple points is a mediary point inself in the respect the point is dual inversive.

This dual nature of the point as pure being (1 dimensional) and pure nothingness (0d dimensional/inversive) further synthesizes as the point itself being the prime foundation of all limit while simultaneously being without limit with this dualism observing the "point" as the foundation of all consciousness through the axiom as self-evidence.

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Re: The Dot

Post by Greta » Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:26 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:05 pm
Greta wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:19 am
Yes, as a "secularist" I know people will think this goes against the grain but I like this piece ⵙ

Of late I've often thought about similar things (and trying to work out how to get the concept into sci fi fiction) in considering atomic and cellular nuclei, the solar system, the galaxy, and so forth ...

It seems to me that entities with this formation can form building blocks of grander, more complex structures.
Points, lines and circles are the constants of the universe either as abstract structures from which all structures form or even in movements we see in everyday life.
Also individual planets and stars with everything emanating from the core. Or organisational structures, where the nucleus is the owners or the board and all else emanates out from that centre. Or cities, with the CBD acting as a nucleus. Or nations with the capital cities being at the centre of activity.

An important corollary to this is the idea of the initial state - the form and qualities of of the nucleus that determine the nature of its radial influence, setting up the potentials and limitations of what follows.

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Re: The Dot

Post by Dubious » Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:13 am

Greta wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:26 pm
An important corollary to this is the idea of the initial state - the form and qualities of of the nucleus that determine the nature of its radial influence, setting up the potentials and limitations of what follows.
...beginning with the super-set of all such divergent developments initialized in a center ready to burst, the Big Bang itself. Though we try to understand how things may unfold from a point, the initial state to which there is none prior, the one that spread its own seeds abroad remains latent within an infinitesimal that can't be penetrated. It it were, that would seem to imply the potential for understanding each one of it's subsets in full whether macro or micro.

In short, virtually every mystery would be annulled except its Purpose for those who still insist on asking...a semi-theistic version of the First Cause.

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Re: The Dot

Post by Nick_A » Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:53 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:12 pm
Nick_A wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:51 pm
For her part, Simone Weil, in one of her last essays, wrote:

"Toujours le même infiniment petit, qui est infiniment plus que tout."

[Always the same infinitely small, which is infinitely more than all.]
Simone could appreciate the deeper meanings of the circumpunct from not being limited to a dualistic mindset. How can the infinitely small dot be infinitely more than all? Must the idea be condemned as absurd by the dominant dualistic mind?
All phenomena are composed of and compose points relative to their position in space with this position itself following the same form and function as a point. The connection of these points observes the point fundamentally as 1 point in the respect the connection observes a negative dimension conducive to an imaginary seperation where this seperation allows us to observe the one point approximately through many points (which give rise to the various physical, emotional and mental phenomena of our everyday lives which as composed of points mediate us to the point through the points itself).

In these respects the observation of one point through multiple points is a mediary point inself in the respect the point is dual inversive.

This dual nature of the point as pure being (1 dimensional) and pure nothingness (0d dimensional/inversive) further synthesizes as the point itself being the prime foundation of all limit while simultaneously being without limit with this dualism observing the "point" as the foundation of all consciousness through the axiom as self-evidence.
Here is where you lose me


This dual nature of the point as pure being (1 dimensional) and pure nothingness (0d dimensional/inversive) further synthesizes as the point itself being the prime foundation of all limit while simultaneously being without limit with this dualism observing the "point" as the foundation of all consciousness through the axiom as self-evidence.
I've come to accept the concept of the six dimensional universe as the most sensible. Bottom up and top down, it begins with the point defined as a limit. The point has no dimensions. An infinity of connected points creates the first dimension we perceive as a line. An infinity of lines extending from the initial line creates surface or the second dimension and so on.

To consider the Absolute as one dimensional limits the Absolute which is beyond dimensional limitations. So the Absolute without dimensions or a limit beyond our conceptions is pure conscious potential or spirit. This potential must be more than all the universal manifestations of potentials into more course forms of matter and lower vibrational frequencies. The Dot then is more than the infinity of its involutions. Of course the process by which the Absolute initiates creation is another matter but I just wanted to supply my understandings of the Dot.

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