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Is interpretation the basis for all subjective thought?

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:35 am
by Judaka
I am looking for any valid criticism regarding the following idea; that interpretation is the basis for all subjective thought.

By interpretation I mean: the act of explaining what something means or a belief about what something means

The argument is; Beliefs are formed as a result of believing something (or some things) means something and this is what the belief is.

I am excluding from this, notions formed as a result of psychology such as temperaments or what have you, which may create a subjective truth for someone.

So are there any contexts where you agree interpretation is the basis for some KIND of subjective belief or perhaps just that interpretation really is the basis for all subjective thought? If not then what contexts is it not.

Thanks

Re: Is interpretation the basis for all subjective thought?

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:01 pm
by Lacewing
That makes sense to me. One's interpretation results in the reasoning and beliefs that follow it. Even though there are always multiple interpretations, people are usually quite sure of their own interpretation being most accurate.

Re: Is interpretation the basis for all subjective thought?

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:36 pm
by Walker
What else would be the basis, other than someone else's view?

Re: Is interpretation the basis for all subjective thought?

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 5:32 pm
by Eodnhoj7
Judaka wrote: Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:35 am I am looking for any valid criticism regarding the following idea; that interpretation is the basis for all subjective thought.

By interpretation I mean: the act of explaining what something means or a belief about what something means

The argument is; Beliefs are formed as a result of believing something (or some things) means something and this is what the belief is.

I am excluding from this, notions formed as a result of psychology such as temperaments or what have you, which may create a subjective truth for someone.

So are there any contexts where you agree interpretation is the basis for some KIND of subjective belief or perhaps just that interpretation really is the basis for all subjective thought? If not then what contexts is it not.

Thanks
Interpretation puts limits to the subjective, by applying boundaries, which inevitably objectifies it. Subjectivity, has no limit, while objectivity observes inherent limits. This dualism provides the basis for self-evidence, through the axiom, as both no-limit and limit where limit exists through no-limit and no-limit cancels itself out as limits through a negation of negation in itself alone.

Re: Is interpretation the basis for all subjective thought?

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:30 pm
by jayjacobus
Interpretation is the basis for cognition or so it seem. Whatever comes from your senses are interpretted at least for what your attention is focused on. Can you act without interpretting? Perhaps you can act biomechanically but interpretively seems to override biomechanically given a few seconds to think. Yet action is usually learned and automatic without thinking providing a third way of behaving.

This a basic analysis of intepretation and I mostly agree with what else has been said.

Re: Is interpretation the basis for all subjective thought?

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:52 pm
by HexHammer
No, there's also the concept of compulsions.

Re: Is interpretation the basis for all subjective thought?

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:27 pm
by Eodnhoj7
Interpretation as the basis of all subjective thought is in itself an interpretation and as such is an objective statement.

Re: Is interpretation the basis for all subjective thought?

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:02 pm
by Dalek Prime
HexHammer wrote: Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:52 pm No, there's also the concept of compulsions.
Compulsion is just a bad way of interpreting things.

Re: Is interpretation the basis for all subjective thought?

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:04 pm
by Dalek Prime
It would hardly be a coherent thought, let alone subjective, if it wasn't interpreted into some comprehensible format.

Re: Is interpretation the basis for all subjective thought?

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:41 pm
by HexHammer
Dalek Prime wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:02 pm
HexHammer wrote: Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:52 pm No, there's also the concept of compulsions.
Compulsion is just a bad way of interpreting things.
In some cases, but not all cases.

Re: Is interpretation the basis for all subjective thought?

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:20 am
by Dalek Prime
HexHammer wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:41 pm
Dalek Prime wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:02 pm
HexHammer wrote: Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:52 pm No, there's also the concept of compulsions.
Compulsion is just a bad way of interpreting things.
In some cases, but not all cases.
Which cases do you consider the exceptions?

Re: Is interpretation the basis for all subjective thought?

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:58 pm
by HexHammer
Dalek Prime wrote: Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:20 amWhich cases do you consider the exceptions?
- to do good
- be dedicated
- being honest
- being uncorruptable
Etc!

Re: Is interpretation the basis for all subjective thought?

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:44 pm
by Dalek Prime
HexHammer wrote: Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:58 pm
Dalek Prime wrote: Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:20 amWhich cases do you consider the exceptions?
- to do good
- be dedicated
- being honest
- being uncorruptable
Etc!
Conclusions which have been interpreted and processed, I would say.

Re: Is interpretation the basis for all subjective thought?

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:02 pm
by HexHammer
Dalek Prime wrote: Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:44 pmConclusions which have been interpreted and processed, I would say.
I believe what you sa is something based on ignorance, that you grab out of thin air.

Re: Is interpretation the basis for all subjective thought?

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:03 pm
by Dalek Prime
HexHammer wrote: Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:02 pm
Dalek Prime wrote: Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:44 pmConclusions which have been interpreted and processed, I would say.
I believe what you sa is something based on ignorance, that you grab out of thin air.
I believe you believe that. Nonetheless, you haven't shown how your exceptions defy interpretation.