Angelo Cannata wrote: ↑Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:54 am
Whenever we, or any philosopher of past or present time, talk about “I”, or “subjectivity”, a big mistake is made. The mistake consists in treating it as an object.
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This means that any attempt to talk about subjectivity by trying to use exact ideas and concepts is automatically a betrayal of subjectivity, because being exact means just being objective. So, the best ways of talking about subjectivity are arts: painting, music, literature, sculpture, poetry. Arts express subjectivity without any claim of being exact, clear, precise. Arts allude to subjectivity, rather that define it; any artist expresses first his own subjectivity, not others’.
That means that philosophy must open a dialogue with arts (that is not philosophy of aesthetics: that would be, again, an objectification), if she wants to talk properly about subjectivity.
So, in this moment I am trying to consider what I have just written as “art of ideas”, rather than a claim of transmitting some precise, exact, clear idea.
There are many perspectives to "I" and "subjectivity" plus also 'objectivity'.
I agree the current focus in philosophy is on objectivity even objectifying the 'I'.
However I believe both 'subjectivity' and 'objectivity' must both be activated in complementarity like how Yin and Ying intermingled equally and checking each other in reality.
In this sense, when objectivity reaches its optimum, it is limited by subjectivity and vice-versa,
Yes, there is the true essence of subjectivity in the arts: painting, music, literature, sculpture, poetry; creativity, hermeneutics and even in science.
This is the inherent drive of 'artfulness' within all human.
Here are some points re Hermeneutic and Art from Zimmerman;
- Philosophical hermeneutics, by contrast, insists that art possesses the power to convey true knowledge about our human condition.
And this power is best described as creative performance.
In Chapter 1 we said that hermeneutics is the art of understanding but also of making oneself understood.
Both aspects play an important part in how art conveys truth.
Understanding requires art rather than rule-governed science.
Philosophical hermeneutics thus rehabilitates the power of art to convey real knowledge about ourselves.
Art helps us understand ourselves better and thus make more intelligent decisions about life.
Art helps us to identify and understand previously invisible forces that shape our lives and thus to deal with them.
In what is perhaps its greatest gift to us, art makes possible recognition, the power allowing us to say, ‘Yes, that’s how it is, now I understand.’
Scientific prediction depends on an art, namely the art of establishing—by means of the scientist’s trained eye, ear, and touch—the correspondence between the explicit predictions of science and the actual experience of our senses to which these predictions apply.