Nick_A wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:12 pm
DaM, I’m unsure of what you consider your true self to be. Consider the Gospel of Thomas:
Jesus said, "If those who lead you say to you, 'See, the kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."
Nice Jesus quote.
True self to me just means the ''immutable source energy'' that appears to transmute itself into myriad of energetic forms.
It's the NO-THING...that is EVERYTHING.
All form being the vehicle body that energy uses for expression, to experience itself. An energy that is free in every moment. It seems to me that there is something very still and peaceful underpinning the sense of being alive, and that peace never changes (I call that peace pure awareness)..and within that pure awareness all sorts of energetic happenings arise and fall back into that, while there can appear to be chaos, agitation, and disturbance in this sense of aliveness.The pure awareness is never phased or effected by any of that.That awareness to me, is what the true self is. I call it awareness because I don't know what else to call it.
What can we call this sense of being aliveness? All I know is that it is very peaceful at it's base level, and that chaos is not the natural state of affairs, chaos always succumbs to the peace and tranquillity that is pure awareness because it's the final resting place where everything arises and falls within it.Chaos can arise and dissipate, but peace is the constant unchanging presence, it's all allowing the chaos to be there without ever being affected by it.
The true self is stable.The ego self shifts constantly. The true self is driven by a deeper sense of truth that is beyond everyday shallow thinking where unending demands of "I, me, mine take centre stage.
We know true self is the flip side of the everyday self..because there is the experience of polarities, of both peace and of chaos which has a different quality to peace obviously. While the true self is certain and clear about things. The everyday self of ego gets influenced by countless outside influences, it is easily agitated and disturbed leading to confusion. The true self is more stable and grounded.The true self is love. The ego self sometimes feels lack so it seeks from outside sources to fulfil itself. But, true self IS LOVE, it's totally self fulfilled in every moment.
Nick_A wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:12 pmThe higher parts of our collective being can consciously observe the reactions of our lower parts. In this way the observer and observed are ONE. The observer observes in the moment of time. Is this observer what you call your true self?
The way I am seeing it Nick, ..is that what I am ultimately is the unborn unchanging observer immutable SELF ...observing the changes aka the (experiences) that come and go in this SELF.
And that's all I can say about it, it doesn't need any more detail other than that simple observation...which is no thing being everything.
Nick_A wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:12 pmAs I understand it, the action of conscious self observation can allow us to be known from higher consciousness that sees us in eternity rather than just in a moment of time. If this is true we do not have a true self but only the potential for inner unity and a higher quality of being we cannot experience as we are but is our potential.
Yes, I agree. Knowing we are self conscious gives us a window into two worlds, the eternal world of SELF, and the temporal world of self.
And from that vantage point we hold the potential to be whatever potential is available to us within the laws of physics according to what has been assigned to us as humans. The human being as far as I understand is just another experience that the one energy or spirit is having.
That's all I can see right now Nick...
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