I don't see how. A person can say that the living machine we call organic life on earth as a whole which eats itself and reproduces is too complex to be an accident. But it will always be argued. Secularists must claim it just appears while the universalist posits a source.uwot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:13 pmWhat do you think of theists like Stephen Meyer and William Lane Craig who argue that you can demonstrate the existence of god with bottom up reasoning?
I have a simple approach. Is it more probable that creation is the lawful expression of no-thing or nothing? No-thing is the ineffable pure consciousness with everything in it as potential. Nothing in contrast is void of potential. it is dead matter. Since nothing is dead and by definition cannot create anything I prefer to begin with the premise of no-thing and and the universal structure it creates through the interactions of universal laws allowing creation to serve its purpose as the Body of God. The question becomes what part Man on earth plays within the body.