The thing is Atla, you have to already know that knowledge first before you can make the statement...the contradiction is pure illusory as the knower and known have to exist in the same instant...else how can anything be known? You have to exist before you can know you exist, knowing is not prior to existing, it's instantaneous in the moment one with the knowing..Atla wrote: ↑Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:42 pmThere are no higher and lower parts of our being, that's all made up. There are no two levels of reality and there is no white horse and black horse.
That's not an actual contradiction you presented, since you made up the contradicting elements in the first place.
The problem with trying to get a peek up our own skirt is that we are using concepts to define this ineffable oneness, so it is rather a tad contradicting, but can't you at least look past that hurdle?
In duality space time 3D world of opposites where the infinite is having it's being, (as experience)....it could not know or experience itself without those opposites.
I'm a little confused about the way you speak Atla because the contradicting elements you speak of is conceptual, but how would you know a concept without anything to relate it to? ..this is where the split mind comes in and is necessary....so the two realities have to go hand in hand else nothing would make sense. I understand you calling this out as a contradiction which it is, but it's unavoidable is it not?
I'm following your thread over in the religious forum, and here you are talking about the conscious and subconscious ..being in the same reality. Yes they exist parallel within the same instant, NOW...so it's not really a contradiction is it, and yet it is unavoidable at the same time...as all parallels simultaneously exist NOW this instant. There is only NOW.
You seem to be describing the split mind here...correct me if I'm wrong?
So it does appear that there is a split mind reality, to be two levels of reality that you appear to deny exist...this is how I'm reading it from my own level of understanding within this debate.This is how I get answers from my own subconscious though. I put questions and information into it, let that stuff be silently parallel processed somewhere way down there, and then eventually an answer appears. And then I check that answer using "normal" methods. As far as I know this is a rare ability.
This unconscious / conscious is what's known as the split mind, between clarity of the heart of what's really true, and valuable of what keeps us safe and from harm, as opposed to the head of belief and interpretation, the wayward self.
''Our Split Mind. Our mind can be separated into two general processes: conscious and subconscious (also know as unconscious). ... However, we are not aware of most of things our mind is doing so that we can function. Some mental mechanisms are constantly used without our awareness''
We are AWARENESS.... first and foremost...we can be awareness without a mind, but a mind aka (the conceptual knowing of I exist) is totally dependant on awareness to BE...because it's an aspect of that one eternal self.
This is the split mind, the two seeming realities existing in the same ONE reality. One is infinite, the other is finite within the infinite.
Then according to your definition we need to get a little mental, go a little bat shit crazy before we can arrive at the split mind level of thinking.Atla wrote: ↑Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:42 pmThere are several ways how people can arrive at such split minds where they start to believe/experience two realities. Sometimes they are born that way, sometimes religion/philosophy leads them there, sometimes it's a nervous breakdown or some mental disorder etc. etc.
That doesn't necessarily mean one is losing their mind, it means one is gaining their uncreated creative true eternal self...
What a divine paradox.