Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:34 ambut the human does apparently care about life...but the human does apparently care about life...
Most people care about life, others don't, of course it's not universal.
that caring has to come from somewhere, it has to exist...
Nope, caring is just something that most people are capable of, it's part of their brain/mind. Ever met people with a complete lack of empathy?
the human did not make itself, the human is the made....
Neither of these is true, existence is spontaneous.
there is nothing separate from the whole...
Yes, but that doesn't mean that there aren't differences.
caring is the universe caring for itself...
The universe on the whole, doesn't care for itself. On the whole it doesn't do anything.
humans are not in the universe, humans are the universe, it's in us....we are not in it.
A human is a part of the universe, continuous with it. We are in it, but fundamentally speaking, also one and the same with it.
The universe is not in you; a representation of the universe is in your head. It's a model of your surroundings.
If we didn't care..we might just give birth to a child and then think oh sod it I can't be bothered with this screaming brat and leave it outside in a cardboard box for someone else to look after it...
And some people do just that. In order to stop such people, we need clarity, sanity in the world first, and you are actively working against clarity.
so this is not what generally happens...because we care about life...life cares about itself, cats care for their kittens, dogs care for their puppies...etc etc...
Yes most people and many advanced animals do care. (Not sure about cats, I love cats, and I have a cat, and my cat adores me, but to me it seems that cats in general don't care that much. Dogs do care.) But "life" itself doesn't care, some species usually care.
I don't get where you think the universe doesn't care?....it can't care in the sense that it looks on in utter detachment prior to embodiment...embodiment is when you the universe are experiencing itself as and through a mind/body mechanism ..caring has to come into play....else life would be total chaos...
Some parts of the universe, that are those species, do care, other parts don't care. Some parts are actively trying to hurt others, destroy life, cause suffering.
I care about telling the truth to my offspring...sometimes they prefer the lie, like when I tell them I am not in relationship with them, I say that we are equal to each other as one being...now if they truly cared about me, truly loved me, then nothing I say to them would turn them away...
You are telling them irrational stuff.
And children do need a very concrete emotional bond to parents, if you just care in general about everything and everyone, then you don't truly care about anyone. Some vague universal compassion is merely a caricature of actual personal bonds.
Sometimes truth does not want to be heard, but at the same time, truth cannot be turned away from...we always return to truth in the end because it's our natural resting place of peace harmony and contentment.
You seem to have misunderstood what the "truth" is. Finding personal harmony and contentment is good, but not a universal feature.
When you say value is a human construct...is this because you believe a human can die, so any value dies along side the one that invented it?
Of course humans die, that's a fact. All these thoughts and memories and self-awareness that I am, will be lost, scattered. And one day (maybe quite soon) the human race will end. The "absolute" is always there, it can't not be, but from the everyday perspective, things are impermanent.
Do you like being alive and experiencing life at multiple levels of human diversity and creativity...
I love being alive, I enjoy being alive, I love what some humans have achieved, but I'm disappointed by most humans.
or do you dislike life and you can't wait to die and your final wish is to never ever be born ever again?
Reincarnation doesn't exist so of course I, as this person, won't be born again.
I prefer existence to nonexistence, I don't want to die at all. I just wish this world would be a better place, waking up on a planet that will probably soon be blown up, is a bit disappointing.
I also have a question for you, do you understand that your precious oneness also means that you are "one" with Stalin? Oneness goes "both ways" you know.