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Re: New Year's Resolutions

Post by vegetariantaxidermy » Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:10 pm

thedoc wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:08 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:46 pm
thedoc wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:43 pm
I believe it was George Burns who said "When I was young I liked young girls, I don't see why it should be any different now that I'm older".
Ten year old boys like ten year old girls. That's normal. If they still like them at seventy then there's a problem.
A problem for who, the young girl, the old man, or others who try to tell everyone else how to live.
Actually it's the law that protects children from old pervs (or is supposed to. Jimmy Savile would beg to differ).

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Re: New Year's Resolutions

Post by Philosophy Explorer » Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:17 pm

thedoc wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:08 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:46 pm
thedoc wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:43 pm
I believe it was George Burns who said "When I was young I liked young girls, I don't see why it should be any different now that I'm older".
Ten year old boys like ten year old girls. That's normal. If they still like them at seventy then there's a problem.
A problem for who, the young girl, the old man, or others who try to tell everyone else how to live.
Hi doc,

Are you saying that those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones or are you saying this applies to everybody?

PhilX 🇺🇸

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Re: New Year's Resolutions

Post by thedoc » Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:57 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:10 pm

Actually it's the law that protects children from old pervs (or is supposed to. Jimmy Savile would beg to differ).
In a legal trial there are limits to what can be said about the plaintiff by the defendant. The plaintiff might be the most despicable person you know but you can't say much of that in court. So the law favors the one making the accusation, in spite of how bad they might be.

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Re: New Year's Resolutions

Post by vegetariantaxidermy » Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:02 am

thedoc wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:57 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:10 pm

Actually it's the law that protects children from old pervs (or is supposed to. Jimmy Savile would beg to differ).
In a legal trial there are limits to what can be said about the plaintiff by the defendant. The plaintiff might be the most despicable person you know but you can't say much of that in court. So the law favors the one making the accusation, in spite of how bad they might be.
Are you sure about that? It often ends up being the victim 'on trial' with their character assassinated, especially in murder cases.

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Re: New Year's Resolutions

Post by thedoc » Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:03 am

Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:17 pm
thedoc wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:08 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:46 pm


Ten year old boys like ten year old girls. That's normal. If they still like them at seventy then there's a problem.
A problem for who, the young girl, the old man, or others who try to tell everyone else how to live.
Hi doc,

Are you saying that those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones or are you saying this applies to everybody?

PhilX 🇺🇸
I wouldn't be surprised if it were both. BTW, I'm not in favor of an older man taking advantage of a young girl, but I can also see a young girl taking advantage of an older man. Myself, I tend to appreciate a female over 20 years old, there is something about a mature woman that appeals to me.

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Re: New Year's Resolutions

Post by thedoc » Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:05 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:02 am
thedoc wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:57 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:10 pm

Actually it's the law that protects children from old pervs (or is supposed to. Jimmy Savile would beg to differ).
In a legal trial there are limits to what can be said about the plaintiff by the defendant. The plaintiff might be the most despicable person you know but you can't say much of that in court. So the law favors the one making the accusation, in spite of how bad they might be.
Are you sure about that? It often ends up being the victim 'on trial' with their character assassinated, especially in murder cases.
Yes, Been there, done that, that was the statement of my defense lawyer telling me what I could and couldn't present in a criminal case.

I'm not saying that you as the defendant can't say anything bad about the plaintiff, but there are limits.

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Re: New Year's Resolutions

Post by Celebritydiscodave2 » Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:46 am

I can find no content in your responses, nothing actual, nothing worth responding to, but sufficient to say, you already think you know everything about me, yourselves, this following of mine, the psychology of such friendships, and this is exactly how prejudice operates, no knowledge becomes all knowledge. As soon as you are aware that young people are taking an interest in an older person`s world record attempts, perhaps even in them as an individual, you apparently stop listening right there, for you already "know" everything, Yes, the media constantly highlights the fact of adults taking advantage of children, but do you know what the statistics are for communications leading on to abuse, you do not. It could be that only one in every 1000000 communications between outside of family adults and children are unhealthy, and might lead on to something sinister. Which story do you imagine is put in print, it wont be the million going nowhere ones, where nothing shocking happens, now will it?

If it were not for the programming, the prejudice, it might even be worth asking yourselves, this question, when it comes to associations of disparity in years is my thinking logical, rational, and balanced, and have I not got sex and fancying on the brain. You have suggested to what you apparently consider my flaws of character to be, and you`ve even mentioned J.S in going there. I have asked for no apologies, but meanwhile, I have done the same, intelligently, rationally. I am in the public domain, all eyes on me, whilst you few cannot even afford to spill your names, apparently, but you expect me to be judged by you, this merely on account of a younger following, and without defence or explanation, without reference to possible flaws of character present with yourselves. It works both ways in the real world, sorry.

The fact that some fourteen/sixteen year olds take an interest in me as an individual, and as well, follow my life, is an enormous compliment, and it suggests to only good of both me and my character. Meanwhile, you do n`t like it because you cannot claim such a following for yourselves, perhaps, and unless you become a school teacher, or the like, in probability never shall. What is your resolution then, to continue your attempt at destruction, or to begin a journey in truth and enlightenment, in reality. When time is bridged in friendships that bridge is not exclusively to an ugly place, as much as the media would have you believe so. I`m not here as a defendant, I have nothing to defend, nothing has arisen that has required any defence on my part. I`m simply here for my own entertainment, and to learn more about the nature of prejudice. Perhaps it is you that are on trial here, ask yourselves.
NB I tend to respond to you all as a group, so it is a sum total of everything said response. More work than this on my part would prove impossible. It is the natural level of response when out numbered whilst on the back foot.
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Re: New Year's Resolutions

Post by Lacewing » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:27 pm

Celebritydiscodave2 wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:46 am
I`m simply here for my own entertainment
Apparently you are entertained by talking AT people (about yourself), and casting projections (at/about them), and ignoring reasonable questions that are posed to you in response to what you say.

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Post by henry quirk » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:45 pm

"As soon as you are aware that young people are taking an interest in an older persons world record attempts, perhaps even in them as an individual, you apparently stop listening right there."

Seems to me: when the older person brags to strangers about such things (the way you do, Dave), the older person shouldn't be surprised when the strangers' responses are 'suspicion'.

Air your laundry (dirty or clean) and you invite comments you may not like.

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Re: New Year's Resolutions

Post by Celebritydiscodave2 » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:59 pm

It comes across to you as bragging only out of its exceptional occurrence coupled with your perception that it is a fortunate disposition. Such, telling becomes bragging. Meanwhile, one of your number even wants to talk about ten year old boys, I do n`t know why, he`s your mate though, so perhaps you do?!! Being open is everything - What is your real name, your Facebook address, phone number, etc?

I`m doing enough work without responding individually to all of your questions. Your collective response is bordering on the nature of a mob, and one does n`t separate individuals from a mob, for it is only a single person. Not one solitary person has anything positive to say, this just because it`s me, and you would wish to create a victim.

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Post by henry quirk » Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:33 pm

"It comes across to you as bragging..."

Cuz it 'is' bragging.

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"he`s your mate though"

Who's my mate, Dave?

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"What is your real name, your Facebook address, phone number, etc?"

I don't do facebook, my name is Henry, my phone number is private.

Just cuz some folks advertise themselves and post pictures of their latest bowel movement to a feed doesn't obligate others to do the same.

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"Not one solitary person has anything positive to say"

Mostly cuz, in context, you've offered nuthin' praiseworthy.

Right or wrong: you've presented yourself as a self-aggrandizer with a thing for kids. You mebbe didn't intend to present yourself as 'melodramatic perv' but that's how you come across.

Look, I don't particularly care for most of the folks in this forum. With the exception of two or three, pretty much every one here, to me, is a pussy, a communitarian scumbag, or just nuts, so if I'm agreein' with 'them' on 'you', that sez sumthin' you probably shouldn't dismiss.

'nuff said.

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Re: New Year's Resolutions

Post by Celebritydiscodave2 » Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:11 pm

To the last few lines, in your dreams only, that`s the opposite of the impression I`ve given of myself. To the rest, it speaks of you for itself, but there is nothing of me there. All that comes across is that you think I`m making a better go of my life than you are of your own. Meanwhile, I have not been here to even try and compete with anyone. My mission in life, as you are already well know, as all of you well know, is to help others. I live with young women in preference to having to take food to them on our streets, and I have a following of young people through their interest in world records, and world record attempts. Not because I knock on their doors and ask them out to play. They are far too old for that as any fool knows, but you get the idea. I come across well enough that young women live with me, and young people generally tend to singling me out from others of my years, positively, not negatively as you`d wish it be. That`s coming across amply good enough for me, the wishful thinking of a mob to one side.

How do you come across, all of you here, and your phone number and Facebook address is?. Remember, don`t trust quite as much as the rest those adults that are not entirely open, as I, for they might indeed have something sinister to hide. As for ganging up against me, you do it because it is the easy option, very few avoid joining in with the mob, an exceptional few, of those with a voice that is. The rest are too frightened to voice any opinion. Tomorrow I`m planning to set a new record for bending the heavy duty double springed chest expander bar, aiming for 800 bends in one hour, and whilst hill running dragging six feet of chain and 10 kgs of iron balls. To conclude then, my resolution is all of this, to be more patient, understanding, tolerant, forgiving, competitive, and to set the best example to my friends, all ages, no prejudice (all ages within reason!!) I wish you all well but for as much as you would have me question my motives, and no more than this, I have had you questioning your own. That is entirely fair! All the very best for the new year, and I made it all up really, all my friends are eighty years old.

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Post by henry quirk » Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:53 pm

"All that comes across is that you think I`m making a better go of my life than you are of your own."

Where'd you get that idea?

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"My mission in life, as you are already well know, as all of you well know, is to help others."

I know no such thing...never heard of you till you started posting here...only know of you what you've posted here.

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Re: New Year's Resolutions

Post by FlashDangerpants » Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:47 pm

Celebritydiscodave2 wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:46 am
I am in the public domain, all eyes on me
There are no eyes on you except when you are attention whoring. As soon as this thread grinds to a halt we all will forget you. Just like the children, who don't even notice you in real life, let alone flock to you.

Do you think you are the first delusional narcissist we've met? Your following in real life is just as imaginary as the Youtube following that you bragged about but also don't have. It's as fraudulent as Bob Evenson's political party, or Bill W's 'mentees', or Prof's college students for his ethics courses, none of which exists either.

You are a mad old man who thinks he can cheat ageing and death with positive thinking - and you seem to be very afraid of your increasing frailty. You think that a lie goes away with the same positive thinking - if you just say the lie is the same as the truth then it wasn't really a lie. And when people don't fall for your bullshit, you probably really do think we are jealous of you, that's how delusions work.

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Re: New Year's Resolutions

Post by Lacewing » Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:27 pm

FlashDangerpants wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:47 pm
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Mr. Dangerpants... may I call you Flash? Excellent post! I'm encouraged when people call out such madness and behavior for what it is.

General response below, not directed to Flash...

The levels of craziness exhibited on this forum are astounding. To some degree, we may all be swimming in crazy... but wow, some people really do deep dives (where there's less oxygen getting to their brains perhaps) :) : totally immersed in self-glory and dishonesty and denial... which is typically followed by claims of being a victim when people start throwing stuff at them. They show no awareness of what they are saying, doing, creating, or of their delusion and lack of responsibility. They blame everyone else.

I honestly don't want to hurt people when confronting and challenging such things, but I do want to get their attention -- their protective cocoons appear hard and crusty enough to ignore broader awareness and any pain that might initially accompany that. If they were more flexible and open, that would be evident quickly, and then reasonable discussion would be thrilling. But, as it is, I figure I might as well bounce thought-provoking ideas/questions off of their stuff (which I also use to continually consider/question myself too) while seeing the humor in the absurdity of all of it, and having fun with that.

If I thought such people were happy and having fun with their delusions, it would be a lot easier to leave them alone. They appear to be trapped and limited by their own darkness, though -- while they seemingly beg for people to burst their bubble by doing/saying as many outrageous things as they can. I'm just trying to help. :) The convoluted notions that people can create for themselves and stay loyal to (essentially worshiping their creations as false idols) is astounding... while others are encouraging them to SEE what they're doing, thereby pointing them to the key to escape their own self-made prison. They really should be more grateful! 8)

My wish for us all is to have more clarity amidst the madness... and drop the delusions that harm the well-being of ourselves and others.

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