Ahem. PLEASE READ CAREFULLY, NICK_A; FOR I SHALT NOT WRITE ANY QUOTE ATTRIBUTED TO YOU OTHER THAN WHAT YOU WROTE ABOVE. Please don't correct me, "yeah, but, yeah, but", later, you had your say, so forever hold your peace.Nick_A wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:49 pm We appreciate wisdom differently. The beginning of the Serenity Prayer really expresses my understanding of wisdom:
God grant me the serenity
To accept the things I cannot change;
Courage to change the things I can;
And wisdom to know the difference.
A person can argue about what humans do as much as they like but the wisdom that deals with Kant’s questions is acquired from experiential knowledge – from efforts to “know thyself” or have the impartial experience of oneself. Most prefer to argue about what humans do. It is the way of education. Only a minority have a love of wisdom sufficient to become open to the way of wisdom.
According to you, wisdom is to know the difference between what you can't change, and what you can change.
If you don't believe me, read what you said above.
This is PRECISELY what the serenity prayer says about wisdom. In addition, it appeals to a god to give you serenity to be able to accomplish the telling of the two types of things apart.
You explicitly said, and you can't mean other, than to say that to you wisdom is an ability to tell the difference between two things: what you can do and what you can't.
This is a pretty impoverished idea of wisdom, if you ask me. But you did not ask me. But I still say it: if this is the sum total of what makes a person wise, then it's pretty childish, immature, impoverished, useless, limited. And you insisted in the preamble that this is your idea of what wisdom is.
To me, wisdom entails other things as well, and without attempting to write a complete list, these are examples of attributes of wisdom which you never included in your definition of it:
abilities to tell:
What you would do in a certain situation, even before the situation arises
What others would do in certain situations should they face it at any time
Abilities to predict:
How others would react to your actions
How to convince others of your right (and how not to)
How to deflect inappropriate persuasion
How to shield your ego from vicious attacks on it
Abilities to discern:
Differences between people and types of reactions, and pairing them up properly and accurately
You find none of these abilities as parts of wisdom, whereas I find them to be essential and very integral parts of wisdom. Again, please don't argue that you do, because you've already given your view of what wisdom entails, and none of what you said includes the above.