Abortion is murder, or is it?

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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Jaded Sage wrote:Roe v Wade decided that it was a violation of privacy to outlaw abortions, but there is no right to privacy guarenteed by the constitution. It seems Pro-Life is the just position.
Umm, you do realise that 'The Constitution' only applies to the US don't you??? No one else gives a shit about it.
I forgot there are people here from across the pond. My point still stands tho.
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We’ve learned that many enjoy fetal soup regardless of the opinion of the fetus. But what if the fetus argues it is protected by fetal homicide law? Why is fetal homicide considered murder and abortion considered legal? Does a woman really have the power of life and death over a fetus with the protection of fetal homicide law? If your ex wife decides it is OK to murder you since she has the power of life and death would you object? You probably would. Why? It is a woman’s choice. Fetal homicide law suggests a fetus has objective value. A woman denies and says it is really a meaningless zef and should be killed at a woman’s discretion. The fetus may object but since it is only seen as good for soup it lacks support.

http://definitions.uslegal.com/f/fetal-homicide/
Fetal homicide is the act of killing an intrauterine fetus. The natural death of a fetus is not fetal homicide. Fetal homicide is the purposeful or incidental killing of a fetus due to a criminal human act. Many state courts have held that the fetus must be viable, capable of sustaining life outside the mother’s womb for the fetal death to be considered a fetal homicide. Fetal homicide is also known as feticide or child destruction.
Pursuant to section 187(a) of the California Penal Code Section, murder is the illegal killing of a human being or fetus by another human being with malice aforethought.
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Nick_A wrote:We’ve learned that many enjoy fetal soup regardless of the opinion of the fetus. But what if the fetus argues it is protected by fetal homicide law? Why is fetal homicide considered murder and abortion considered legal? Does a woman really have the power of life and death over a fetus with the protection of fetal homicide law? If your ex wife decides it is OK to murder you since she has the power of life and death would you object? You probably would. Why? It is a woman’s choice. Fetal homicide law suggests a fetus has objective value. A woman denies and says it is really a meaningless zef and should be killed at a woman’s discretion. The fetus may object but since it is only seen as good for soup it lacks support.

http://definitions.uslegal.com/f/fetal-homicide/
Fetal homicide is the act of killing an intrauterine fetus. The natural death of a fetus is not fetal homicide. Fetal homicide is the purposeful or incidental killing of a fetus due to a criminal human act. Many state courts have held that the fetus must be viable, capable of sustaining life outside the mother’s womb for the fetal death to be considered a fetal homicide. Fetal homicide is also known as feticide or child destruction.
Pursuant to section 187(a) of the California Penal Code Section, murder is the illegal killing of a human being or fetus by another human being with malice aforethought.
Are you a complete idiot? Do you not understand that once the government decides it is illegal, It is out of the hands of the woman. Till then the choice is the woman's. It is her body which is carrying the fetus.

The best thing for you to do, since you feel so strongly about this is to go out on the streets, raise support for these fetuses and spend your days getting the government to make all abortions illegal.


But you won't do that. Because all you can do is sit and whine and come up with sick things like eating fetuses. You are incapable of doing anything except to whine about how good you are and how bad everyone else is. You are basically a pathetic little creature.

Do you realize that everyone who feels as strongly about these things is actually out on the streets doing something about it? You are sitting in the comfort of your home, talking about how outraged you are eating a pizza, drinking beer. You want to be awakened, but you are too afraid to leave home which is a necessary precondition for awakening. You don't want to get out of your comfort zone at all. You are like a baby who never grew up.

You essentially are a whiner pure and simple. That is your life's achievement. Whining.
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Sthit wrote: Are you a complete idiot? Do you not understand that once the government decides it is illegal, It is out of the hands of the woman. Till then the choice is the woman's. It is her body which is carrying the fetus.

If you read the law it clearly states that murder is the illegal killing of a human being or fetus by another human being with malice aforethought. So if the woman kills the fetus with malice aforethought it is murder but if she kills it out of love then it isn’t murder. Her intent decides the law. Thumbs up and it lives and anyone trying to kill it would be committing murder Thumbs down would just lead to the destruction of another meaningless zef and of no consequence
Fetal homicide is the act of killing an intrauterine fetus. The natural death of a fetus is not fetal homicide. Fetal homicide is the purposeful or incidental killing of a fetus due to a criminal human act. Many state courts have held that the fetus must be viable, capable of sustaining life outside the mother’s womb for the fetal death to be considered a fetal homicide. Fetal homicide is also known as feticide or child destruction.
Pursuant to section 187(a) of the California Penal Code Section, murder is the illegal killing of a human being or fetus by another human being with malice aforethought.
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The simple solution to the problem of shark fin soup is easily solved by making fetus soup more available. Once people are taught its benefits there will be less of a demand and hence less of a desire to kill sharks.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/shut ... t-40879137
American fishermen are digging in for a fight over a congressional proposal to send a message to the rest of the world by shutting down the vestiges of the U.S. harvest of shark fins, prized for soup and traditional medicine in Asia.
The traditional "finning" of sharks — in which they are pulled out of the water, have their fins sliced off and are discarded into the sea, often still alive but unable to swim — is already illegal in the U.S., but fishermen are still allowed to hunt sharks and have their fins removed during processing on land.
A bill backed by Sen. Cory Booker, a New Jersey Democrat, and others promises to ban the sale and possession of shark fins to ensure U.S. fishermen and seafood dealers no longer participate in the global fin trade. Supporters say the bill would close loopholes left open by measures passed in 2000 and 2010 to protect sharks…………………………...
Why kill sharks when you already have aborted fetuses to eat? A good erection covers a multitude of sins and if a fetus provides this and other health benefits, just eat the fetus and protect the sharks. It is the progressive thing to do.
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Nick_A wrote:The simple solution to the problem of shark fin soup is easily solved by making fetus soup more available. Once people are taught its benefits there will be less of a demand and hence less of a desire to kill sharks.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/shut ... t-40879137
American fishermen are digging in for a fight over a congressional proposal to send a message to the rest of the world by shutting down the vestiges of the U.S. harvest of shark fins, prized for soup and traditional medicine in Asia.
The traditional "finning" of sharks — in which they are pulled out of the water, have their fins sliced off and are discarded into the sea, often still alive but unable to swim — is already illegal in the U.S., but fishermen are still allowed to hunt sharks and have their fins removed during processing on land.
A bill backed by Sen. Cory Booker, a New Jersey Democrat, and others promises to ban the sale and possession of shark fins to ensure U.S. fishermen and seafood dealers no longer participate in the global fin trade. Supporters say the bill would close loopholes left open by measures passed in 2000 and 2010 to protect sharks…………………………...
Why kill sharks when you already have aborted fetuses to eat? A good erection covers a multitude of sins and if a fetus provides this and other health benefits, just eat the fetus and protect the sharks. It is the progressive thing to do.
Let me guess. You support the death penalty, like all the other KKKristians? :roll:
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vege wrote:
Let me guess. You support the death penalty, like all the other KKKristians? :roll:
I believe a fetus should be given a fair trial before given the death penalty.
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Nick_A wrote:vege wrote:
Let me guess. You support the death penalty, like all the other KKKristians? :roll:
I believe a fetus should be given a fair trial before given the death penalty.
Are you footing it's legal bill as well?
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Abortion is death. It isn't funny.

Folks laugh at death.

Why?
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Walker wrote:Abortion is death. It isn't funny.

Folks laugh at death.

Why?
Oh my, on another thread you are extolling the virtues of genocide. What a bag of contradictions you are.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Walker wrote:Abortion is death. It isn't funny.

Folks laugh at death.

Why?
Oh my, on another thread you are extolling the virtues of genocide. What a bag of contradictions you are.
Murdering abortionist. (No, that's not right)

Prove you're not a murdering abortionist. (That's better)

Moron. (Yeah baby!)

Now why don't you just answer the damn question, cutie.

What, you like to dance or something? (Not that one. I know that answer. The other one. Pertaining to why laugh at death.)

Stupid fuck. Monkey throwing a monkey wrench.
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Walker wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Walker wrote:Abortion is death. It isn't funny.

Folks laugh at death.

Why?
Oh my, on another thread you are extolling the virtues of genocide. What a bag of contradictions you are.
Murdering abortionist. (No, that's not right)

Prove you're not a murdering abortionist. (That's better)

Moron. (Yeah baby!)

Now why don't you just answer the damn question, cutie.

What, you like to dance or something? (Not that one. I know that answer. The other one. Pertaining to why laugh at death.)
We all know you are a dirty little KKKristian hypocrite. You don't have to keep advertising the fact.
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You're obviously life-killing scum.

You make me want to vomit, you hypocrite.

You are so stupid. So very, very stupid.
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Go on. Keep wallowing.

But whatever you do, hold onto the tried and true.

Don't elevate.

It's gotten you this far, like stink on shit.

And remember, whatever you do, don't speak to the question of why make light of death.

No, don't do that.

Idiot.

Fuck off.
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Nick_A wrote:Sthit wrote: Are you a complete idiot? Do you not understand that once the government decides it is illegal, It is out of the hands of the woman. Till then the choice is the woman's. It is her body which is carrying the fetus.
That is not all sthit wrote. He wrote a lot of other stuff about you which you have ignored.

It does not matter what you think is right anymore. You claim to care a lot about fetuses. Well, go out on the streets and do something about it. Which you are not prepared to do.

What you really want is an outlet for your misogyny. You don't want to save fetuses. You want to exert your dominance on women. And you want to call people who don't agree with you monsters. That is your agenda.

You want an excuse to insult people and repress women to cover up for what I can safely assume is a sad and pathetic life. You are incapable of action. Of any kind.

You are and will remain a whiner. No action. Only whining.
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