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What really matters?
Re: What really matters?
Surely no one would try to pull of a stunt like that.Lacewing wrote: • You're a banned user trying to sneak back in. (Banning decisions are final. You will be found, and all the posts made under your new name will be erased.)
Re: What really matters?
Just curious, have you been banned over there? If so, tell me your new code name so I'll know it's you.Harbal wrote:Surely no one would try to pull of a stunt like that.Lacewing wrote: • You're a banned user trying to sneak back in. (Banning decisions are final. You will be found, and all the posts made under your new name will be erased.)
- henry quirk
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*quirk's guide to net conversation and debate
Expect the worst.
*applies to living in general
*applies to living in general
Re: *quirk's guide to net conversation and debate
For people who believe that thoughts create reality, this strategy would be totally defeating.henry quirk wrote:Expect the worst.
- henry quirk
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No doubt.
In my experience, however, reality exists independent of any one's happy or nasty thoughts, and one directs reality (not change it, just restructure it in minor ways) by application of force.
Wanna clear a field for farming? Cut down the trees, excavate any stones, turn the soil. Thinking 'at' or 'about' the field will get you nuthin' at all.
Wanna change a mind? Persuade through word and action. Worst case, you shoot the recalcitrant bugger in the face (won't change his mind, but sure will squelch his opposition). Thinking 'at' or 'about' that other mind, the one you want to change, will get you a big handful of diddlysquat.
As for the net: it is what it is (mostly crap) expect the worst and (at least) wear hip boots.
As for the forum you mentioned: a tyranny is a dictatorship is micromanagment is a straightjacket is a large stick inserted anally is...
In my experience, however, reality exists independent of any one's happy or nasty thoughts, and one directs reality (not change it, just restructure it in minor ways) by application of force.
Wanna clear a field for farming? Cut down the trees, excavate any stones, turn the soil. Thinking 'at' or 'about' the field will get you nuthin' at all.
Wanna change a mind? Persuade through word and action. Worst case, you shoot the recalcitrant bugger in the face (won't change his mind, but sure will squelch his opposition). Thinking 'at' or 'about' that other mind, the one you want to change, will get you a big handful of diddlysquat.
As for the net: it is what it is (mostly crap) expect the worst and (at least) wear hip boots.
As for the forum you mentioned: a tyranny is a dictatorship is micromanagment is a straightjacket is a large stick inserted anally is...
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Everything we do starts with a thought, right? And if the thought is "this sucks, this won't work, what a pain in the butt, etc.", then that's the energy we are infusing into that activity/goal. As opposed to "this is interesting, anything is possible, let's see what I can do with this, etc.", which would infuse a different energy. Do you think such energy has no impact?henry quirk wrote:In my experience, however, reality exists independent of any one's happy or nasty thoughts, and one directs reality (not change it, just restructure it in minor ways) by application of force.
Wanna clear a field for farming? Cut down the trees, excavate any stones, turn the soil. Thinking 'at' or 'about' the field will get you nuthin' at all.
Wanna change a mind? Persuade through word and action.
I'm not talking about saving the world from itself or being delusionally cheerful. I'm talking about how attitude and vision and quality of energy can affect a path or situation. If one's attitude is to expect the worst, chances are higher (it seems) that their expectations will be fulfilled, if only to make themselves "right". We typically see (and create!) what we expect to see. That's why you can put two people in the same exact situation, and their experiences/impressions could be completely different. Reality is a personal experience.
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My father used to have a saying,henry quirk wrote: Wanna clear a field for farming? Cut down the trees, excavate any stones, turn the soil. Thinking 'at' or 'about' the field will get you nuthin' at all.
"You can wish in one hand, and shit in the other, and see which one gets full the quickest."