"freewill"

[The Inglorious One]

there is no such thing as randomness (actual randomness).

Of course. That's exactly what "randomness (freedom) and necessity do not exist independently" implies.

Hobbes either:

• 1) lives in an alternate universe in which 19th century physics still prospers,
  2) is willfully ignorant,
  3) is a troll whose only purpose is to disrupt, or
  4) some combination of the above.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Nothing is atemporal, except concepts that do no work and have no extension.

Does reality have a beginning? Do either randomness or necessity have a beginning?

Why are you avoiding the question?

[Hobbes' Choice]

there is no such thing as randomness (actual randomness).

Of course. That's exactly what "randomness (freedom) and necessity do not exist independently" implies.

Hobbes either:

• 1) lives in an alternate universe in which 19th century physics still prospers,
  2) is willfully ignorant,
  3) is a troll whose only purpose is to disrupt, or
  4) some combination of the above.

You forget 5) A deluded religious nut living in the 1stC BC.

Please explain how Heisenberg relates to the question.

[The Inglorious One]

Please explain how Heisenberg relates to the question.

Heisenberg came upon the uncertainty principle by thinking there might be a reality that is not discoverable by experiment or explained by mathematical formalities.

This might hurt your 19th century head, but more and more, the universe in which we live appears to be a “holomovement"-- a term coined by physicist David Bohm but an idea that goes back centuries.

The random movements of the infinitesimal are linked by the oneness of infinity. Einstein called it "spooky action at a distance." There is no “substantive” will, no will that stands apart from dynamic whole. Ideally, what we call “freewill” is the act of a concentrated region of dominant characteristics progressively making adjustments to the constant movement of the Whole through conscious and unconscious awareness coexisting on multifarious levels of connectedness.

I say "ideally" because yours, being stuck in the 19th century, might be a hopeless case.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Please explain how Heisenberg relates to the question.

Heisenberg came upon the uncertainty principle by thinking there might be a reality that is not discoverable by experiment or explained by mathematical formalities.

This might hurt your 19th century head, but more and more, the universe in which we live appears to be a “holomovement"-- a term coined by physicist David Bohm but an idea that goes back centuries.

The random movements of the infinitesimal are linked by the oneness of infinity. Einstein called it "spooky action at a distance." There is no “substantive” will, no will that stands apart from dynamic whole. Ideally, what we call “freewill” is the act of a concentrated region of dominant characteristics progressively making adjustments to the constant movement of the Whole through conscious and unconscious awareness coexisting on multifarious levels of connectedness.

I say "ideally" because yours, being stuck in the 19th century, might be a hopeless case.

Please answer the question.