MozartLink's topics summed up in 1 paragraph

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

Pleasure is the only real value. Pleasure is an absolute, a concept. One could say they do not desire "pleasure" but they only say this because their notion of such pleasure is a pain to them. One could say that pleasure turns into pain, and that pain turns into pleasure, but such a thing would just be humanized labels. For in the abstraction, which is actually the concrete, the absolute pleasure would be both the things labeled "pleasure" and "pain", if such a man gained joy from things labeled "pain". If a man hated "joy" itself, then joy would not be absolute pleasure. If a man were to say that a utopia is not pleasure but pain, it is because their notion of utopia is not utopia for them, but someone else's utopia which is not their true utopia. Thus, pleasure as an abstraction (which is the concrete) is the thing that all lifeforms should strive for.

[jackles]

Yes the pleasure of not bothering about pleasure. Thats a pleasure.

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

Yes the pleasure of not bothering about pleasure. Thats a pleasure.

There's another pleasure, pleasure in reading posts that make discernable sense.

[jackles]

Trixie thats very unbecoming of you me dear.ha

[jackles]

Trixie thats very unbecoming of you me dear.ha