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"Do you think I've gone barking mad?"

Alice.

"You're off your head, barking, but shall I tell you a secret... all the best people are."

Her Father.

From Alice's Adventures in Wonderland by Mr Dodgson or should I say the Rev. Dodgson.

My point I suppose is is there utility in madness, and if there is where is the cut off point? Is there a cut off point, what is the utility of the strange, or the mad in understanding, and should insanity or creatively wierd be held captive in such a way?

Be held captive?

When people become insane or "mad", they loose certain aspects of social and personal functionality. Socially they loose the ability to socialize and come to understanding with others, and personally their ability to do things critical for their well-being or survival is reduced.

In some circumstances their reduced functionalities can be useful, but it's highly unlikely unless you twist your perspective and shred reality of the hard facts, like some people do in order to justify reality distortions. For the vast part, a functional mind in the areas of socializing and personal sustainability are largely desired and the opposite greatly undesirable.

However, sometimes it doesn't even make that much of a difference for the individual seen by themselves, though for society at large it's always a loss when somebody looses their ability to function and become mainly burdens that take up huge costs and resources from society.

Insanity or madness is not a reason on its own to be held captive, and people aren't held captive merely for their mental dysfunctions, but usually because their behaviour is either putting other people at risk or is disturbing their life. Some types of insanity or madness doesn't need much supervision however, though I think the people mostly want to have some sort of comforts that are found in institutions, because they find life to be such a big struggle on their own.

The Voice of Time wrote:Be held captive?

When people become insane or "mad", they loose certain aspects of social and personal functionality. Socially they loose the ability to socialize and come to understanding with others, and personally their ability to do things critical for their well-being or survival is reduced.

In some circumstances their reduced functionalities can be useful, but it's highly unlikely unless you twist your perspective and shred reality of the hard facts, like some people do in order to justify reality distortions. For the vast part, a functional mind in the areas of socializing and personal sustainability are largely desired and the opposite greatly undesirable.

However, sometimes it doesn't even make that much of a difference for the individual seen by themselves, though for society at large it's always a loss when somebody looses their ability to function and become mainly burdens that take up huge costs and resources from society.

Insanity or madness is not a reason on its own to be held captive, and people aren't held captive merely for their mental dysfunctions, but usually because their behaviour is either putting other people at risk or is disturbing their life. Some types of insanity or madness doesn't need much supervision however, though I think the people mostly want to have some sort of comforts that are found in institutions, because they find life to be such a big struggle on their own.

"Raise a child in the way they should go and they will not depart".
Parents are to blame. Period.
Once a parent fails a child the child becomes angry whether they are too controlling or too passive, an entity enters and is the cause of insanity. It is no longer the child, but a dark force.
It is passed down from generation to generation.
Parents are 75 % of the problem. kids go out in the world unprepared for hardships they cannot handle.