How would you chose to die?

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How would you chose to die?

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It's an odd question one that acknowledges that one day we all must die. But have you thought about it, have you acknowledged your fate and in doing so what way would you chose to die?

I know a morbid question but one all people must answer: how will you die and in what manner would you chose?

There are many ways to die, old age, parachute not opening, on fire jumping from the castle walls to your doom. But how do you personally envision your death? Or do you in fact envision it, have you spent a long time ignoring your fate..?
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Alas, over the years I have instead spent my time taking inventory of the many classical / stereotypical ways in which I do not wish to die. Like avoiding a forced, feet-first entry into a wood chipper. Or evading assisted defenestration from lethal heights by the hired help of an impatient life-insurance beneficiary.
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Haha, the woodchipper. I've thought about that too lol. True, the question should really be about how you WOULDN'T want to die. Being skinned alive would be close to the top of my list.
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I'd prefer not to die at all.

But if I really need to... I guess I would prefer to die not in a hospital bed but sitting in a comfortable chair, slowly passing out before my heart stopped and I "died in my sleep"... I'd prefer to know this was gonna happen before it happened though.
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The Voice of Time wrote:I'd prefer not to die at all.

But if I really need to... I guess I would prefer to die not in a hospital bed but sitting in a comfortable chair, slowly passing out before my heart stopped and I "died in my sleep"... I'd prefer to know this was gonna happen before it happened though.
Don't you come from Norway? You are very lucky then. You are civilised enough to have legalised euthanasia, so you won't have to suffer.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:You are civilised enough to have legalised euthanasia, so you won't have to suffer.
Euthanasia is illegal in Norway. It's illegal both to kill yourself and to aid somebody else in killing themselves. The second is considered murder. And I for everyone's sake hope there's never going to be anything as horrific as euthanasia in Norway. It's absolutely not civilized, it is irrationality and anti-humanism at its extreme. Love of death is mental illness at its worst.
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The Voice of Time wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:You are civilised enough to have legalised euthanasia, so you won't have to suffer.
Euthanasia is illegal in Norway. It's illegal both to kill yourself and to aid somebody else in killing themselves. The second is considered murder. And I for everyone's sake hope there's never going to be anything as horrific as euthanasia in Norway. It's absolutely not civilized, it is irrationality and anti-humanism at its extreme.
That's so much more civilised. I don't understand why anyone would be against voluntary euthanasia. Why is it that we don't allow our pets to suffer, yet humans don't get the same luxury. It makes no sense to me.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:I suppose it's much better to make people suffer long, agonising deaths.
There's nothing good on either side in a bad situation, but succumbing to the situation is certainly not a good option. One tries to solve the problem as best and as long as one can, and if one does not have the necessary resources one puts the problem on hold until one does. And yes that means letting the person experience pain if of course that's all you can do, though with all the resources available in modern hospitals it's unlikely there's no means to make the waiting more relaxed. Personally if I knew I was gonna die an agonizing death, I'd put on some really good porn and taken all the happy-pills and happy-gas they had and waited it out, unless I had some unresolved issues I'd need to attend to, then I'd strike a more functional deal with the hospital pharmacy so I was able to fulfil them as best as possible.
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:That's so much more civilised. I don't understand why anyone would be against voluntary euthanasia.
It's as far from civilized as possible. It's equivalent to spiritual gibberish and witchcraft and all that stuff, it's pure reality-distorting story-telling. There's nothing voluntary in despair, just desperation and dark thoughts. Free will is suspended in exchange for dark and self-hurting obsessions and/or destructive thinking. A robot you can destroy when it starts malfunctioning, a human being is irreplaceably unique and its value is enshrined in the very love of humanity and its prosperity that dictates that we fight for each other and not just our own egos... once gone a human being is gone forever, there's no reboot button.
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Why is it that we don't allow our pets to suffer
Because we use our pets to make ourselves happy, and if they express pain they cannot be utilized to cause us happiness, so we get rid of them and replace them with for instance a tomb to symbolize memories instead of the actual pet.
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:yet humans don't get the same luxury.
It's not luxury, it's not even a commodity, there's no game in ending a game, and there's no gain in ending all gains. It's insanity, and insanity cannot be reasoned with. It is produced by pain, but you won't end pain by killing someone or yourself, you'll just end yourself or that person. You wouldn't be there to even know the difference once you are dead, all desires in death are completely utterly irrational and products of delusional fantasy.

From my perspective, I could ask you the same question, how you possibly could be interested in something as despicable and deeply hurtful to the very idea of human prosperity as killing people just because they suffer.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Haha, the woodchipper. I've thought about that too lol. True, the question should really be about how you WOULDN'T want to die.
I wouldn't say that as there's endless of possebilities of dying in a bad way.

Most people would like to die in a state of self respect, to keep their honor intact, instead most die in a tragic way, lonely and humiliated by alzenheimer and other delabitating illnesses.
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@VoiceofTime

If it's not for you then you are welcome to suffer as much as you want to. It's called voluntary euthanasia for a reason.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:@VoiceofTime

If it's not for you then you are welcome to suffer as much as you want to. It's called voluntary euthanasia for a reason.
A fancy name for succumbing to delusions.
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The Voice of Time wrote:
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:@VoiceofTime

If it's not for you then you are welcome to suffer as much as you want to. It's called voluntary euthanasia for a reason.
A fancy name for succumbing to delusions.
What are you even talking about?
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The Voice of Time wrote:
A fancy name for succumbing to delusions.
In hospitals the management of pain and death is called palliative care, you'll find a lot of terminal patients are actually euthanised by Drs by issuing massive doses of di-morphine aka heroin that let the patient go out slowly and pain free rather than screaming and in agony, it's not something that is generally advertised, but the maxim do no harm, is clear here.

There's a difference between not wanting to watch someone suffer in their final days and murder believe it or not.

"That's no way to die??? Parachute not opening, nuts bit off by a Llaplander now that's the way to go..."

Frank Drebin: Police Squad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGfnOydG-Vo

That said this has got to be some impressive exit.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote:What are you even talking about?
You said it's called "voluntary euthanasia for a reason", I say it's called that because it sounds prettier than "voluntary suicide", and because it simplifies the more complex phenomenon.
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Blaggard wrote:There's a difference between not wanting to watch someone suffer in their final days and murder believe it or not.
Yeah, in the former you do not end someone's life. You focus on something else.
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