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I really like writings of Pyotr Demianovich Ouspenskii in the questions of the functions of a human being and a description of the possible states of being for a normal human being. That is the answer that I use and that I discovered over forty years ago; The answer that I still use and refer to almost every moment of my day.

Ouspensky also addresses the origin of man and his writings in general provide a workable, living answer toward the possible meaning to each moment; each breath, of our existence.





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Hey Bill, how have you been?
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Bill Wiltrack wrote:.
I really like writings of Pyotr Demianovich Ouspenskii in the questions of the functions of a human being and a description of the possible states of being for a normal human being. That is the answer that I use and that I discovered over forty years ago; The answer that I still use and refer to almost every moment of my day.

Ouspensky also addresses the origin of man and his writings in general provide a workable, living answer toward the possible meaning to each moment; each breath, of our existence.[/size]
Bill,
Thanks for the thoughts and the photo. There are rocks like that up another 1000 ft. in my west yard. I love mountains.

About 30 years ago a cherished friend recommended Ouspensky, so I perused what she said was his main (perhaps only) book. As I recall, he claimed to have obtained these ideas through Gurdjieff (sp), a guy who wandered the world in search of understanding, but seemed to focus his attention upon the Eastern mystical traditions. I'd studied those before, and so found nothing new in Ouspensky, but perhaps a slightly different, westernized interpretation or two.

It's been so long that I don't recall any specific objections. My general objections to Eastern mysticism in general is summed up by one of the little top-chapter quotes in my book, "A mystic is someone who seeks to understand the universe, but does not see how some knowledge of physics would be helpful."

About a half century ago I enrolled in a physics program, and came into it as a devout Catholic. Before long it was obvious that my religious beliefs were incompatible with physics. It was also obvious that physics worked. Desperate for a new understanding of my purpose and nature, I invented my own, a concoction of Catholic metaphysics and classical physics that seemed to me to explain all things.

I was wrong about that, but in the course of a subsequent career in various sciences, I expanded and perfected my theories thanks to conversations with scientists and engineers who though that my ideas were at least worth kicking around over a few beers. The discovery of dark energy in 1998, which my theories actually predicted without me noticing, forced me to abandon core elements of my original theory and develop better ideas. After a few years of work I ended up with a logically consistent, physics-based theory that describes dark energy and human consciousness, plus time, QM, and the real forces behind evolution. It incorporates psychic phenomena, including past life recollections and temporary-death experiences. Other stuff too. Mine is a richer and deeper theory than Ouspensky's. He did what he could with the tools he knew how to use. I found what I regard to be better tools in Physics 301 and subsequent studies.

I mention this so you'll understand that I appreciate your suggestion. My policy is that if someone has ideas that work for them, and if they are living a positive and constructive life, I do not try to interest them in my ideas. Most people are strongly attached to whatever ideas they currently hold. That probably applies to you. Yet one might wonder why, if you are content with your ideas, you are killing personal time posting stuff on a philosophy forum? Perhaps you are looking for deeper levels of understanding. You are the only one who knows. If that turns out to be the case, it would be remiss of me not to recommend my book, in the same spirit that you recommended Ouspensky.

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Bill Wiltrack wrote:.





Again, not really sure what you mean by the term GNU.


The closest thing I have found is an operating system that represents complete freedom & liberty.






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I will take it as that and I appreciate your respect and understanding.


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Philosophy is like a birth; a Phoenix, and yet death, at the same time.

You must die on the outside while you are re-born within...




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In a different place yet at the same place, without being attached to the ego that once encased you.







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Hello Bill

Who am I? I am a homo-sapiens, that attempts to get to the truth of things!
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I am MIGHTY!

I'd like to point out at this juncture also that I am not Napoleon!
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Blaggard wrote:I am MIGHTY!

I'd like to point out at this juncture also that I am not Napoleon!
Yet you only suppose you know him, or anyone for that matter.
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What are you babbling about SoB?

I can reasonably surmise I am not Napoleon based on the fact he is dead, and I am presumably not, and that I am not in fact the Emperor of France nor am I about to mount an expensive campaign on Russia which will inevitably lead to the demise of my militaristic aspirations at the battle of Waterloo. What does that have to do with knowing anything or anyone? Honestly I think some people just like to hear the sound of their own thoughts.
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Blaggard wrote:What are you babbling about SoB?

I can reasonably surmise I am not Napoleon based on the fact he is dead, and I am presumably not, and that I am not in fact the Emperor of France nor am I about to mount an expensive campaign on Russia which will inevitably lead to the demise of my militaristic aspirations at the battle of Waterloo. What does that have to do with knowing anything or anyone? Honestly I think some people just like to hear the sound of their own thoughts.
How is your memory? Another thread: Shatner, Napoleon? Can you really be that forgetful? Maybe some don't really pay attention. Just spitting out words, not noticing where they splatter!
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Nah! Unix you ain't.

Gnu - a budding guru, now-a-days most usually found upon the Interweeb seeking acolytes. Can be identified by their utterance of meaningless or contradictory aphorisms and vague and meaningless nonsense about a hidden 'Truth' or 'Reality' always just out of reach. Common traits, an inability to answer sentences with question marks, acute selective reading ability, massive belief confirmation bias, ad-hominen psycho-babble and a complete inability to walk their talk or even talk their walk. Be wary of such beasts. Preventative vaccination advised, i.e. a study of Philosophy, in particular a dose of critical philosophy and Logic as practiced in Philosophy now-a-days.
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What makes you believe a non-guru can recognise a GNU?
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To yourself you are the apparent continuity of your experience, at core (you don't stop existing when you fall asleep). To others you are the continuity of their experience of you (see Phineas Gage).
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