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Sculptor wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:59 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:09 pm
Sculptor wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:50 pm Ask yourself ...
Non-responsive and silly. I can't be bothered.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:18 pm
Sculptor wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:59 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:09 pm
Non-responsive and silly. I can't be bothered.
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I do not think it is unreasonable to cite your hysterical article.
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RCSaunders wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:34 pm My comment was about, "animal ethics." But do animals have ethics? You seem to be talking about what would be called, "human ethics," and how humans should regard animals. I really don't think the animals have ethical views about humans or each other, do they?
They have honesty and loyalty without any awareness of it being ethical, honest or loyal. On the other side we have humans, so many of whom are shallow low-life hypocrites forever talking about ethics in grand philosophical terms as if trying to acquire precisely what is missing. In dealing with other humans, we become evermore aware of this distinction which results in loving our pets more than each other...even those in our own family.
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Sculptor wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:53 pm I do not think it is unreasonable to cite your hysterical article.
Yes, that horribly hysterical magazine University Affairs. :roll:
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I think that teaching philosophy should be mandatory for children.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:54 pm 'Quota' systems are obnoxious and patronising. If women aren't interested then they aren't interested. So what?
Agree in relation to the question raised in the OP.
Next they will be asking, why so few blacks, yellow, brown, eskimos, etc.

However if women [majority] are not interested, there must be major reasons why they are not interested in philosophy [mainstream].
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Immanuel Can wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:15 am
Sculptor wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:53 pm I do not think it is unreasonable to cite your hysterical article.
Yes, that horribly hysterical magazine University Affairs. :roll:
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bahman wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:06 am I think that teaching philosophy should be mandatory for children.
Most children are not capable to teaching philosophy!! :lol:
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Sculptor wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:53 am
bahman wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:06 am I think that teaching philosophy should be mandatory for children.
Most children are not capable to teaching philosophy!! :lol:
You got me. I meant that learning philosophy should be mandatory for children. :mrgreen:
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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:03 am However if women [majority] are not interested, there must be major reasons why they are not interested in philosophy [mainstream].
What else can we conclude? We know that they have greater access to it than at any time in history, unarguably. And yet many are choosing otherwise.

It's not obvious that we should force them to do things they may not want to do, if that's the case. So it's not at all clear that a disparity in the numbers of bricklayers and lumberjacks (mostly male) and nurses and public school teachers (mostly female) requires us to hunt for "prejudice" or "systemic sexism" and compel an equal distribution between the sexes.

Indeed, to do so, if contrary to women's wishes, is tyranny. Do we want to force women to be bricklayers?

So we would need some evidence that women want, just as often as men do, to be in philosophy roles, and are being denied that opportunity by some illegitmate means. And what's our evidence for that?
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Immanuel Can wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:47 pm What else can we conclude?
Well, you always conclude whatever the hell you want.
Immanuel Can wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:47 pmSo it's not at all clear that a disparity in the numbers of bricklayers and lumberjacks (mostly male) and nurses and public school teachers (mostly female) requires us to hunt for "prejudice" or "systemic sexism" and compel an equal distribution between the sexes.
Agreed. People simply shouldn't be denied an opportunity or role because of their sex.
Immanuel Can wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:47 pm So we would need some evidence that women want, just as often as men do, to be in philosophy roles
Perhaps females generally LIVE more philosophically than males do, so the idea of studying it seems kind of silly. Maybe males NEED to study it because it doesn't come as naturally for them. :lol: Then, the males may think themselves all grand for doing so... while those 'silly females' don't care. Those females typically grow up under very different conditions than the males -- conditions which require them to think beyond the obvious from their early beginnings. They recognize the world they are being born into, and the games that are being played. So they naturally learn to think and play better... regardless of whatever role they decide to settle into. It's a very dynamic difference than what most males are HANDED despite them not possessing any significant insight.
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"By all means marry. If you find a good wife you'll be happy; if you don't, you'll become a philosopher." ~ Socrates
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Lacewing wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:21 pm Agreed. People simply shouldn't be denied an opportunity or role because of their sex.
Quite right. And neither should they be compelled to take an "opportunity" they do not desire, merely because political correctness of the interests of Leftist propaganda tell them they must.

Rather, they should be free to choose what their inclinations lead them to choose, so far as careers are concerned. And if bricklaying isn't it for most women, and nursing isn't it for most men, then who are the absurd tyrants who have the right to force them to choose against whatever their personal choice is?
Immanuel Can wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:47 pm So we would need some evidence that women want, just as often as men do, to be in philosophy roles
Perhaps females generally LIVE more philosophically than males do, so the idea of studying it seems kind of silly.
I don't really know what "lives more philosophically" in that sentence would mean, but perhaps.

However, it doesn't really matter what the reason is. If women are choosing their areas of study according to their own interests and goals, then why would we force them to "study" something they happen to believe, for one reason or another, is not important for them to study? Is our society so overbearing, paternalistic and autocratic now that we think the rest of us have the right to dictate to women how they must distribute themselves in relation to their own interests? :shock:
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Immanuel Can wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:50 pm And neither should they be compelled to take an "opportunity" they do not desire, merely because political correctness of the interests of Leftist propaganda tell them they must.
Oh no... Leftist propaganda is compelling women to do something they don't want to?! Are you aware of how this happens to women from all directions, including but not limited to: politics, governments, marriages, religions, patriarchal societies, etc.? Your focus on 'Leftist propaganda'... in fact, all of you men who are blasting everything associated with 'the Left', while 'the Right' is completely full of crap as well -- are so transparent in your bullshit allegiance. There's no hope for any of us if people don't start being truthful about ALL of it... questioning/challenging ALL of it equally... and holding ALL accountable, not just excusing those you want to align with, and blaming those you want to disagree with.
Immanuel Can wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:50 pmIs our society so overbearing, paternalistic and autocratic now that we think the rest of us have the right to dictate to women how they must distribute themselves
Has been for a really long time. Do you really even care about women's rights and potential -- or are you just using it as an excuse to rail against 'the Left'? Have you cared and spoken up about the injustices to women from all the other areas I mentioned above?
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Dontaskme wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:23 pm "By all means marry. If you find a good wife you'll be happy; if you don't, you'll become a philosopher." ~ Socrates
The moral of the story is....

Men and Women are physiologically wired differently to act in certain ways.

Women produce more Oxytocin in their brains, which is needed for ''tending'' ''nurturing'' and ''befriending''

Oxytocin is a hormone and a neurotransmitter that is involved in childbirth and breast-feeding. It is also associated with empathy, trust, sexual activity, and relationship-building. It is sometimes referred to as the “love hormone,” because levels of oxytocin increase during hugging and orgasm.
Therefore, men who cannot find the bliss love they crave through a woman or in society , start to search for it through Philosophy.

Women on the other hand don't need philosophy, in the same way as a man does. Naturally woman innately know how to feel the bliss of unity, whereas men have to work that little bit harder, looking for it in Bibles, or Philosophy books.

In the end, we're all philosophers, searching for the unity that we believed we have lost, when we became separated from the pure innocence of our childhood into adulthood, where the adult world was realised to be a tad more shady and a far cry from the comfort of being unconditionally loved, and having our every need adoringly tended to, by our loving parents..

Have you ever seen a parent buy their young child the entire collection of The Friedrich Nietzsche Books.

No, they tended to buy them books like this ....Image






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