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RWStanding
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Valus and Things

Post by RWStanding » Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:34 am

Values and Things
We live at the macro-level and perceive accordingly.
It has long been odd to me that anything in the physical-ethical world or worlds should be seen as made up fundamentally of things. Let alone anything we can perceive.
The fundamentals of ethics are inchoate values and also the fundamentals of the physical world.
That space or time should be imagined as fundamentally as we perceive them, interrelated values or things is inconceivable.
At the macro level we see and understand the world as a composite of values, which is to say things or objects.
It may be supposed that at the micro level or sub-atomic, everything is more fluid and is indeed at the inchoate value level.
We may now believe in this abstruse theory of ‘entanglement’. Something here may immediately interact with something across the universe, or maybe not. But that is when dealing with fundamental values that are not acting as a composite whole.

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Re: Values and Things

Post by Lacewing » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:17 am

RWStanding wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:34 am
Values and Things
We live at the macro-level and perceive accordingly.
It has long been odd to me that anything in the physical-ethical world or worlds should be seen as made up fundamentally of things. Let alone anything we can perceive.
The fundamentals of ethics are inchoate values and also the fundamentals of the physical world.
That space or time should be imagined as fundamentally as we perceive them, interrelated values or things is inconceivable.
At the macro level we see and understand the world as a composite of values, which is to say things or objects.
It may be supposed that at the micro level or sub-atomic, everything is more fluid and is indeed at the inchoate value level.
We may now believe in this abstruse theory of ‘entanglement’. Something here may immediately interact with something across the universe, or maybe not. But that is when dealing with fundamental values that are not acting as a composite whole.
It's fantastic. We have these colorful surroundings and lives, which are "still here" every day that we keep waking up -- a collection of things and other beings. Yet, it has appeared to me that everything is in a flow... perhaps streaming, like a river... ultimately indistinct... energy. How does it all seem to stay in place? From the power of our creativity/manifestation? A network of such potential, that entire "lives" and realities can be created and played out as if they are following a timeline. Why would a Universe of such magnificence on so many levels be solely for the purpose of these small and limited physical/material fabrications that we think are so significant while we're experiencing them? Rather, might they be a form of fantastic multi-dimensional artwork on a multi-dimensional Universal canvas? And why can't that be an awareness and experience to love?

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Re: Valus and Things

Post by TheVisionofEr » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:28 am

Maybe destroying the human being is the most beautiful of all the gods or values avalible to the human sense of inner autonomous engenuity. For instance when humans become the equivilant of the Samueal Becket film "Quad" 1981 they become the mirror of an ethos that is inhuman and has no house and life and newspaper and children and dog. They seem to have no world at all, and no quardinating time ancoring, such as a time told in terms of the regnant families in old Eruopen backwaters according to the days of their rule or the birth of Christ. Their exsistence manifests a reflection of the destruction of human time. Or, its stagnation in a little pool of rain water.

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Re: Valus and Things

Post by commonsense » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:16 pm

TheVisionofEr wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:28 am
Maybe destroying the human being is the most beautiful of all the gods or values avalible to the human sense of inner autonomous engenuity.
There’s nothing beautiful about killing a human being.

Nothing.

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Re: Valus and Things

Post by TheVisionofEr » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:54 am

I said destroying THE human being. What followed was the content of that claim.

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Re: Valus and Things

Post by commonsense » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:38 pm

commonsense wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:16 pm
TheVisionofEr wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:28 am
Maybe destroying the human being is the most beautiful of all the gods or values avalible to the human sense of inner autonomous engenuity.
There’s nothing beautiful about killing a human being.

Nothing.
By extension, there’s nothing beautiful about killing more than one human being and nothing beautiful about killing all human beings.

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Re: Valus and Things

Post by TheVisionofEr » Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:18 pm

Nobody said anything about killing. The issue is what is written.

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Re: Valus and Things

Post by commonsense » Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:01 am

TheVisionofEr wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:18 pm
Nobody said anything about killing. The issue is what is written.
Is there some other way to destroy humans?

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Re: Valus and Things

Post by TheVisionofEr » Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:39 pm

That's the content of the post.

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