The Simple Science (and Logic) of Covid

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Re: The Simple Science (and Logic) of Covid

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Sculptor wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:31 pm
henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 1:58 am this...
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...will stop a virus in the same way this...
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...will stop mosquitoes and this...
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...will hold sand
BOLLOCKS.
It's satirical humor. That's all.

If we cannot laugh, we can cry, or we can cry with laughter, you make your own meaning in life. Laugh or cry about it, what's the difference. No one really cares.

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Re: The Simple Science (and Logic) of Covid

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Sculptor wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:11 pm
No one knows where "build back better" comes from but they are all spewing that lie. I think it was a phrase stolen from the 2006 Tsunami.
I think the phrase is used as a trojan horse to wage war in the attempt to make better using the (silent weapons for quiet wars) tactical approach. Boots on the ground are not needed in todays ultra modern warfare. Today's war signals the entire annihilation of humanity as we know it. Yes, humans are nihilists. War is their religion, and religion is money, and humans are in love with money.

And if the Bible is correct, then a war is due very soon. Unless the Bible is just full of pointless silly lies, which it probably is, depending on who believes what it written to be true or not.

Just kidding folks, it's all drama here, nothing to see. :lol: :lol: DONT LOOK UP...ain't nothing up there going to save your sorry arse either.


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Re: The Simple Science (and Logic) of Covid

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Dontaskme wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:56 pm
Sculptor wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:31 pm
henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 1:58 am this...
24D7B0C2-7E81-468E-98F3-67EA8B2CAB05.jpeg
...will stop a virus in the same way this...
311ED08D-87A7-44A8-AE71-A67249BA0B9E.jpeg
...will stop mosquitoes and this...
E87B6157-B878-483C-9D25-B76F5A5A781F.jpeg
...will hold sand
BOLLOCKS.
It's satirical humor. That's all.

If we cannot laugh, we can cry, or we can cry with laughter, you make your own meaning in life. Laugh or cry about it, what's the difference. No one really cares.

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Satire has some truth in ir or it is meaningless. There is more truth in my "bollocks" than in what Herny said.
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Re: The Simple Science (and Logic) of Covid

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My comments were not directed at you but at Henry.

the thing you commented on wasn't mine: it was age's

I responded to age on that sometime back (and to you)

He's chosen to ignore than in the same way he ignores his duty to the USA.

didn't ignore 'em: just won't defend what aren't my thoughts

as for the USA: what duty am I ignorin'?

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might wanna review the thread, bub: get a handle on who is sayin' what to who
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Re: The Simple Science (and Logic) of Covid

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Sculptor wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:31 pm
henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 1:58 am this...
24D7B0C2-7E81-468E-98F3-67EA8B2CAB05.jpeg
...will stop a virus in the same way this...
311ED08D-87A7-44A8-AE71-A67249BA0B9E.jpeg
...will stop mosquitoes and this...
E87B6157-B878-483C-9D25-B76F5A5A781F.jpeg
...will hold sand
BOLLOCKS.
excellent refutation: 👍
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Re: The Simple Science (and Logic) of Covid

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henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:50 pm
Sculptor wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:31 pm
henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 1:58 am this...
24D7B0C2-7E81-468E-98F3-67EA8B2CAB05.jpeg
...will stop a virus in the same way this...
311ED08D-87A7-44A8-AE71-A67249BA0B9E.jpeg
...will stop mosquitoes and this...
E87B6157-B878-483C-9D25-B76F5A5A781F.jpeg
...will hold sand
BOLLOCKS.
excellent refutation: 👍
It is!
Its degree of excellence is measured exactly by the degree with which a shopping trolley is not a face mask.

And you could be less of a c*nt if you educated yourself.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7748970/

https://www.eurosurveillance.org/conten ... 2001998?cV

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj-202 ... awler=true
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'this' is a refutation (from an acquaintance of mine)...

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Wear a mask!

What NIOSH rating do you recommend?

Huh?

The National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health has ratings for masks and respirators, depending on what type of contamination they protect against.

It doesn’t matter.

So, if you were going to be exposed to phosgene, you’d just rely on some random scrap of cloth? Because you’d die. You need specific filters for specific contaminants.

It stops the droplets.

What droplets?

Droplets that contain the Covids.

Viral particles can be aerosolized in large droplets that stop in cloth, and in droplets small enough to pass through, or airborne, or can transmit through the fecal-oral route, or several other disseminations.

The mask helps.

The most favorable meta-study in 2020 claimed a 1.9% reduction in spread, but failed to account for demographics, movement patterns, population density, or natural or artificial environmental factors. A recent study cherry picked one village in Bangladesh, rather than comparing, say, Houston to New York or LA, and only found a 1% reduction in spread, only above age 65, and again failed to account for any other factors. This is a failure.

Why don’t you have faith in science?

First of all, science does not involve faith, it is a methodology, and when your observed facts, such as above, contradict the hypothesis, then the hypothesis fails and is junked.

Masks work! The fact checkers say so!

The fact checkers are usually journalists with zero scientific credentials, disputing people who do have credentials. They also usually misstate the claims. When they attempt to refute a claim, they tend to use a single recent pop article, or out of context single study, to argue against 50 years of professional research that random cloth masks don’t do anything.

Just wear a mask and this will be over!

That claim was made in July 2020, that “6-8 weeks of masks” would end the virus. Once again, observable facts contradict the hypothesis, therefore, it fails and must be junked. There was no statistical difference in disease spread between areas requiring masks and areas not.

Wearing a mask is doing something!

You could also hit the ground with sticks. In our study group, 100% of people hitting the ground with sticks daily avoided COVID.

That’s ridiculous. How would a stick possibly work?

The same way a mask does. At least it would be doing something.

I hope that by not wearing a mask you die.

But if the mask is to protect others, then why would not wearing one affect me? Please make up your mind how it works. And, if it stops viral particles going out, why wouldn’t it also stop them going in? Also, that’s a pretty uncharitable position.

Follow the science!

There are fifty years of research on masks, regarding viruses and other contaminants. I’m following that science, which also means questioning claims. Including the recent claim that a random scrap of cloth is effective at anything other than reducing airflow.

Oh, I know. You want to sit with your grandkids and tell them how you helped beat the Rona that almost wiped out America. You did it while walking around in a gimp mask like the bottom bitch in a porno.

Or maybe you sat your fat ass on the couch and saved lives while drinking whine as part of the "quaranteam."

Possibly you can show them the grainy tube-saved video of your killer TikTok dance video, or your hymn praising Dr Fauscist. Good luck finding a rhyme for "Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy."

At the end of the day, though, the mortality is .07%, and once all the cancer victims who just happened to test positive, half of them falsely, are removed, it's a lot less than that. Even the Infection Fatality Rate, which is a term you can look up to educate yourself, is .23%, dropping rapidly on the curve with younger demographics. The actual Case Fatality Rate, that your revered High Priest Anthony couldn't actually quote correctly, is on par with a bad flu year.

What we're dealing with is the Media Industrial Complex, Big Pharma, the Demorrhoid Party, and the brand new Mask Industrial Complex finding ways to terrify you into begging them for the opportunity to use their products.

Meanwhile, normal people are walking around, breathing the air, and not falling over dead.

Where are your vaccine mandates over pertussis, measles, and polio sc(that last with an IFR near 30%)? You're mentally incapable of grasping that any disease exists except Muh Covids!

This is why normal people are getting sick and tired of your pathetic cowardice, conspiracy nuttery, and outright fascist hysteria.

When it's all over, succeeding generations are going to laugh at you, as normal people are now, and blame you (correctly) for engaging in the bizarre combination of self-flaggelation and potlatching that's damned near crushed the economy, and murdered millions of non-Covidiots trapped in hospitals with your pathalogical obsession. It's all on you, and you will deserve it.

Stop shitting your pants over a fucking cold.
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a mini-conversation with age...

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henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 3:11 am it WILL HELP in stopping a virus transmitting

unless the mask is form-fittin' and flitered, the most it'll do is redirect the virus up and back

if you want to LOOK AT and SEE thee ACTUAL Truth of 'things'

a test: ask a friend who smokes or vapes to take a drag, slip the mask on, then exhale normally

multiple plumes of smoke or vape will stream from his mask

another test: wear a mask, break wind

you'll smell your own flatulence

again: a form-fittin', filtered mask is effective; the kind most folks wear (like the one in the pic I posted above) are for show

but, really, if you wanna wear a mask, age, please do: it's absolutely no skin offa my nose

I won't
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Re: The Simple Science (and Logic) of Covid

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The original stance from WHO was that you should NOT wear a mask unless you are sick. How can you take a health organisation seriously when it does those sort of about-turns? The original logic is the same as it always was. Logic doesn't change.

Only people in the medical profession are trained in their PROPER USE. The grubbly old general public are not, meaning that their misuse is more than likely only making matters worse.
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henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 11:34 am
Age wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:19 am
I'm sure there's all kind of interestin' questions and comments in this post, but I'll never know cuz I'm not readin' it, age.

As I say: your longer posts are headache-causin'.

Shorten it, or break it up into smaller -- less brain-destroyin' -- posts.
What it, essentially, is SHOWING is your ATTEMPTS at DEFLECTION will NOT clear you of your CONTRADICTIONS. As those who read can CLEARLY SEE.
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CONTRADICTIONS

age, cite my contradictions without blisterin' my brain with a loooong, idiosyncratic post and we can talk

otherwise: bugger off
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Re: The Simple Science (and Logic) of Covid

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Sculptor wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:06 pm
Walker wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:37 pm If true*, this would be quite difficult to top as a current news story.

"The two dose vaccine offers very limited protection, in any."


Wait long enough and something really big is bound to happen, though.


* Difficult to top if he said it, and if what he said is true, or false.
The stats disagree with this fake news story.
A Leftist news outlet says the news is not fake.
Looks like the CEO of Pfizer might know something the public does not, which is not surprising.

Pfizer CEO says two Covid vaccine doses aren’t ‘enough for omicron’
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/10/pfizer- ... icron.html

" POINTS
"'The two doses, they’re not enough for omicron,' Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said.
"Bourla said the two-dose vaccine does not provide robust protection against infection and its ability to prevent hospitalization has also declined.
"He said third shots are providing good protection against death, and “decent” protection against hospitalization."


Commentary:
Boosters forever would be wonderful for Pfizer.
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Question:

Since the Covid-19 vaccine requires boosters, why doesn’t the polio vaccine require boosters?
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henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:39 pm
henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 3:11 am it WILL HELP in stopping a virus transmitting

unless the mask is form-fittin' and flitered, the most it'll do is redirect the virus up and back

if you want to LOOK AT and SEE thee ACTUAL Truth of 'things'

a test: ask a friend who smokes or vapes to take a drag, slip the mask on, then exhale normally

multiple plumes of smoke or vape will stream from his mask

another test: wear a mask, break wind

you'll smell your own flatulence

again: a form-fittin', filtered mask is effective; the kind most folks wear (like the one in the pic I posted above) are for show

but, really, if you wanna wear a mask, age, please do: it's absolutely no skin offa my nose

I won't
And, like I have been SHOWING, you will NOT wear one because you only care about 'you'.

You are so self-centered and selfish "henry quirk" you place MORE IMPORTANCE on what you call "your property" than you do on the lives of "others". Even to the extent that you BELIEVE "your toothpick" is MORE IMPORTANT to you than the life of another human being. Which SAYS and REVEALS a LOT about 'you' and the views you express here.
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Walker wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:17 am

Since the Covid-19 vaccine requires boosters, why doesn’t the polio vaccine require boosters?
It does.
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