Healthcare Workers should be Fired
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Re: Healthcare Workers should be Fired
Why can't you just answer? What's all of this "as I say..." and "go read my blah, blah, blah" stuff you always try to use instead of having an actual back-and-forth cooperative discussion?
And how can I answer Do I care about things that don't affect me? ...and... Do I care for people outside of me and mine? without referencin' my words in-forum? Any anecdote I relay from my life is unconfirmable, by me, for you. I can only use what is readily available to anyone as evidence: my words, here. Like my contributions in this thread, for example.
I'm simply pointing out that you do not come across as caring about anything or anyone other than how it benefits you.
I get it: I'm off-putting. My style offends. I told someone, in-forum, not too long back, that I'm no salesman, meanin' I don't schmooze, I don't market, I don't make with the sugar talk. I'm a hard pill to swallow.
It is what it is; I am what I am.
And how can I answer Do I care about things that don't affect me? ...and... Do I care for people outside of me and mine? without referencin' my words in-forum? Any anecdote I relay from my life is unconfirmable, by me, for you. I can only use what is readily available to anyone as evidence: my words, here. Like my contributions in this thread, for example.
I'm simply pointing out that you do not come across as caring about anything or anyone other than how it benefits you.
I get it: I'm off-putting. My style offends. I told someone, in-forum, not too long back, that I'm no salesman, meanin' I don't schmooze, I don't market, I don't make with the sugar talk. I'm a hard pill to swallow.
It is what it is; I am what I am.
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Re: Healthcare Workers should be Fired
The fact that your rants refer to anyone, instead of just to you, just means that your rants refer to yourself, along with others.
So: self-interest and interest in others, these are mutually excludin', to you?
You can see where someone might be confused by your writing one thing at one time and writing the opposite at another.
Nope. Anything I write in-forum is part & parcel of everything I write in-forum. I hold to no conflictin' principles or notions. If you think otherwise it's becuz you've cherry-picked or becuz your comprehension lacks.
Let’s see it happen first before calling it altruistic or not.
I'm no altruist. Frankly, I don't believe anyone is. And it's a false choice: self-interest or interest in others.
I am self-interested (as any sane person normally and naturally is) and other-interested.
As I say: my contributions in-forum revolve around a small set of principles applicable to all men, without exception. I advocate for these principles in a rather plain, direct way, just as I rail in a plain, direct way against those who violate those principles.
I'm a zealous defender of those principles, not a cheerful marketeer of them. If it seems that I only speak for me it's becuz I don't write volumes explicatin' all the details and every nuance. I get in, I get out. I expect intelligent folks to be able to unpack ideas and think them thru. Apparently, though, spoon-feedin' is the way of things here.
So: self-interest and interest in others, these are mutually excludin', to you?
You can see where someone might be confused by your writing one thing at one time and writing the opposite at another.
Nope. Anything I write in-forum is part & parcel of everything I write in-forum. I hold to no conflictin' principles or notions. If you think otherwise it's becuz you've cherry-picked or becuz your comprehension lacks.
Let’s see it happen first before calling it altruistic or not.
I'm no altruist. Frankly, I don't believe anyone is. And it's a false choice: self-interest or interest in others.
I am self-interested (as any sane person normally and naturally is) and other-interested.
As I say: my contributions in-forum revolve around a small set of principles applicable to all men, without exception. I advocate for these principles in a rather plain, direct way, just as I rail in a plain, direct way against those who violate those principles.
I'm a zealous defender of those principles, not a cheerful marketeer of them. If it seems that I only speak for me it's becuz I don't write volumes explicatin' all the details and every nuance. I get in, I get out. I expect intelligent folks to be able to unpack ideas and think them thru. Apparently, though, spoon-feedin' is the way of things here.
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Re: Healthcare Workers should be Fired
You missed the point.
Self-interest and altruism are not mutually exclusive. However, only one of the two can have a higher priority.
Self-interest and altruism are not mutually exclusive. However, only one of the two can have a higher priority.
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I really don't think you had one.
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See the edited post.
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What is there to comprehend about saying me first and also saying others first aside from a contradiction.?henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:24 am The fact that your rants refer to anyone, instead of just to you, just means that your rants refer to yourself, along with others.
So: self-interest and interest in others, these are mutually excludin', to you?
You can see where someone might be confused by your writing one thing at one time and writing the opposite at another.
Nope. Anything I write in-forum is part & parcel of everything I write in-forum. I hold to no conflictin' principles or notions. If you think otherwise it's becuz you've cherry-picked or becuz your comprehension lacks.
Let’s see it happen first before calling it altruistic or not.
I'm no altruist. Frankly, I don't believe anyone is. And it's a false choice: self-interest or interest in others.
I am self-interested (as any sane person normally and naturally is) and other-interested.
As I say: my contributions in-forum revolve around a small set of principles applicable to all men, without exception. I advocate for these principles in a rather plain, direct way, just as I rail in a plain, direct way against those who violate those principles.
I'm a zealous defender of those principles, not a cheerful marketeer of them. If it seems that I only speak for me it's becuz I don't write volumes explicatin' all the details and every nuance. I get in, I get out. I expect intelligent folks to be able to unpack ideas and think them thru. Apparently, though, spoon-feedin' is the way of things here.
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Re: Healthcare Workers should be Fired
A simple yes or no would be one way to answer the questions.henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:59 am Why can't you just answer? What's all of this "as I say..." and "go read my blah, blah, blah" stuff you always try to use instead of having an actual back-and-forth cooperative discussion?
And how can I answer Do I care about things that don't affect me? ...and... Do I care for people outside of me and mine? without referencin' my words in-forum? Any anecdote I relay from my life is unconfirmable, by me, for you. I can only use what is readily available to anyone as evidence: my words, here. Like my contributions in this thread, for example.
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I did that (answered yes). As I predicted, she wanted proof. I offered some. She wasn't satisfied.commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:32 pmA simple yes or no would be one way to answer the questions.henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:59 am Why can't you just answer? What's all of this "as I say..." and "go read my blah, blah, blah" stuff you always try to use instead of having an actual back-and-forth cooperative discussion?
And how can I answer Do I care about things that don't affect me? ...and... Do I care for people outside of me and mine? without referencin' my words in-forum? Any anecdote I relay from my life is unconfirmable, by me, for you. I can only use what is readily available to anyone as evidence: my words, here. Like my contributions in this thread, for example.
The whole sequence is up-thread.
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Re: Healthcare Workers should be Fired
Nope, that's wrong. First, there's no static measure involved: one's interest (in self or the other) will flux. Second, It's possible to be self-interested and other-interested to the same degree, simultaneously.commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:44 pm You missed the point.
Self-interest and altruism are not mutually exclusive. However, *only one of the two can have a higher priority.
Man is not a programmed, binary, machine: he isn't confined to either/or.
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There’s no yes or no in your response, yet you say there is.henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:59 am Why can't you just answer? What's all of this "as I say..." and "go read my blah, blah, blah" stuff you always try to use instead of having an actual back-and-forth cooperative discussion?
And how can I answer Do I care about things that don't affect me? ...and... Do I care for people outside of me and mine? without referencin' my words in-forum? Any anecdote I relay from my life is unconfirmable, by me, for you. I can only use what is readily available to anyone as evidence: my words, here. Like my contributions in this thread, for example.
I'm simply pointing out that you do not come across as caring about anything or anyone other than how it benefits you.
I get it: I'm off-putting. My style offends. I told someone, in-forum, not too long back, that I'm no salesman, meanin' I don't schmooze, I don't market, I don't make with the sugar talk. I'm a hard pill to swallow.
It is what it is; I am what I am.
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Re: Healthcare Workers should be Fired
I never said me first/others first or me first or others first.commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:29 pmWhat is there to comprehend about saying me first and also saying others first aside from a contradiction.henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:24 am The fact that your rants refer to anyone, instead of just to you, just means that your rants refer to yourself, along with others.
So: self-interest and interest in others, these are mutually excludin', to you?
You can see where someone might be confused by your writing one thing at one time and writing the opposite at another.
Nope. Anything I write in-forum is part & parcel of everything I write in-forum. I hold to no conflictin' principles or notions. If you think otherwise it's becuz you've cherry-picked or becuz your comprehension lacks.
Let’s see it happen first before calling it altruistic or not.
I'm no altruist. Frankly, I don't believe anyone is. And it's a false choice: self-interest or interest in others.
I am self-interested (as any sane person normally and naturally is) and other-interested.
As I say: my contributions in-forum revolve around a small set of principles applicable to all men, without exception. I advocate for these principles in a rather plain, direct way, just as I rail in a plain, direct way against those who violate those principles.
I'm a zealous defender of those principles, not a cheerful marketeer of them. If it seems that I only speak for me it's becuz I don't write volumes explicatin' all the details and every nuance. I get in, I get out. I expect intelligent folks to be able to unpack ideas and think them thru. Apparently, though, spoon-feedin' is the way of things here.
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Re: Healthcare Workers should be Fired
But how many times did you have to be prodded before answering belatedly?henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:59 pmI did that (answered yes). As I predicted, she wanted proof. I offered some. She wasn't satisfied.commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:32 pmA simple yes or no would be one way to answer the questions.henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:59 am Why can't you just answer? What's all of this "as I say..." and "go read my blah, blah, blah" stuff you always try to use instead of having an actual back-and-forth cooperative discussion?
And how can I answer Do I care about things that don't affect me? ...and... Do I care for people outside of me and mine? without referencin' my words in-forum? Any anecdote I relay from my life is unconfirmable, by me, for you. I can only use what is readily available to anyone as evidence: my words, here. Like my contributions in this thread, for example.
The whole sequence is up-thread.
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Re: Healthcare Workers should be Fired
henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:59 pmI did that (answered yes). As I predicted, she wanted proof. I offered some. She wasn't satisfied.commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:32 pmA simple yes or no would be one way to answer the questions.henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:59 am Why can't you just answer? What's all of this "as I say..." and "go read my blah, blah, blah" stuff you always try to use instead of having an actual back-and-forth cooperative discussion?
And how can I answer Do I care about things that don't affect me? ...and... Do I care for people outside of me and mine? without referencin' my words in-forum? Any anecdote I relay from my life is unconfirmable, by me, for you. I can only use what is readily available to anyone as evidence: my words, here. Like my contributions in this thread, for example.
The whole sequence is up-thread.
commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:06 pmThere’s no yes or no in your response, yet you say there is.henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:59 am Why can't you just answer? What's all of this "as I say..." and "go read my blah, blah, blah" stuff you always try to use instead of having an actual back-and-forth cooperative discussion?
And how can I answer Do I care about things that don't affect me? ...and... Do I care for people outside of me and mine? without referencin' my words in-forum? Any anecdote I relay from my life is unconfirmable, by me, for you. I can only use what is readily available to anyone as evidence: my words, here. Like my contributions in this thread, for example.
I'm simply pointing out that you do not come across as caring about anything or anyone other than how it benefits you.
I get it: I'm off-putting. My style offends. I told someone, in-forum, not too long back, that I'm no salesman, meanin' I don't schmooze, I don't market, I don't make with the sugar talk. I'm a hard pill to swallow.
It is what it is; I am what I am.
'nuff said, to you, in this thread (cuz your're wastin' my time).henry quirk wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:18 pmDo I care about things that don't affect me? Do I care for people outside of me and mine?Lacewing wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:11 pmDo you?henry quirk wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:54 pm **I only take care of me and mine
**I don't care about anything that isn't affecting me
** Lace's assertions
Yes, I do.
I guess you want me to prove it, right?
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Re: Healthcare Workers should be Fired
Mebbe not. I got that from something that Lace called you out for.henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:08 pmI never said me first/others first or me first or others first.commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:29 pmWhat is there to comprehend about saying me first and also saying others first aside from a contradiction.henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:24 am The fact that your rants refer to anyone, instead of just to you, just means that your rants refer to yourself, along with others.
So: self-interest and interest in others, these are mutually excludin', to you?
You can see where someone might be confused by your writing one thing at one time and writing the opposite at another.
Nope. Anything I write in-forum is part & parcel of everything I write in-forum. I hold to no conflictin' principles or notions. If you think otherwise it's becuz you've cherry-picked or becuz your comprehension lacks.
Let’s see it happen first before calling it altruistic or not.
I'm no altruist. Frankly, I don't believe anyone is. And it's a false choice: self-interest or interest in others.
I am self-interested (as any sane person normally and naturally is) and other-interested.
As I say: my contributions in-forum revolve around a small set of principles applicable to all men, without exception. I advocate for these principles in a rather plain, direct way, just as I rail in a plain, direct way against those who violate those principles.
I'm a zealous defender of those principles, not a cheerful marketeer of them. If it seems that I only speak for me it's becuz I don't write volumes explicatin' all the details and every nuance. I get in, I get out. I expect intelligent folks to be able to unpack ideas and think them thru. Apparently, though, spoon-feedin' is the way of things here.
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Re: Healthcare Workers should be Fired
Your response to Lace was another wandering distraction, until you answered Lace’s questions belatedly.henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:14 pmhenry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:59 pmI did that (answered yes). As I predicted, she wanted proof. I offered some. She wasn't satisfied.commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:32 pm
A simple yes or no would be one way to answer the questions.
The whole sequence is up-thread.commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:06 pmThere’s no yes or no in your response, yet you say there is.henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:59 am Why can't you just answer? What's all of this "as I say..." and "go read my blah, blah, blah" stuff you always try to use instead of having an actual back-and-forth cooperative discussion?
And how can I answer Do I care about things that don't affect me? ...and... Do I care for people outside of me and mine? without referencin' my words in-forum? Any anecdote I relay from my life is unconfirmable, by me, for you. I can only use what is readily available to anyone as evidence: my words, here. Like my contributions in this thread, for example.
I'm simply pointing out that you do not come across as caring about anything or anyone other than how it benefits you.
I get it: I'm off-putting. My style offends. I told someone, in-forum, not too long back, that I'm no salesman, meanin' I don't schmooze, I don't market, I don't make with the sugar talk. I'm a hard pill to swallow.
It is what it is; I am what I am.'nuff said, to you, in this thread (cuz your're wastin' my time).henry quirk wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:18 pmDo I care about things that don't affect me? Do I care for people outside of me and mine?
Yes, I do.
I guess you want me to prove it, right?