You don’t have to wait for customers to become ill or for an investigation to take place. Managers can terminate employment based on innuendo or suspicion.henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:56 pmcommonsense wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:51 pmAll it takes is one customer who witnesses the waitress leaving the women’s restroom without washing her hands, one customer who assumes the waitress defecated and who reports the waitress to a manager.henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:41 pm I do not think we'd have a problem with sacking a waitress who refused to wash their hands after taking as a shit at work.
How will you know the waitress didn't wash her hands?
You'll only know if customers become ill, an investigation is mounted, and the waitress is shown, by way of her poor hygiene, to be the cause of the illness.
No one stands at the door of the restroom to test her, then issue a clean hands certificate, each time she goes to have a movement or void her bladder or blow her nose or check her makeup or switch out her tampon.
Why don't we do that?
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Scanned over the articles too quickly.henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:09 pmI'm a little confused as to why you thought the survey(s) were hers. Even in my cut & paste of her piece (sans embedded links) she states right up-front where she's gettin' her information.commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:57 pmMea culpahenry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:46 pm
It wasn't her survey. She cites two different surveys. Access the link for her piece and see for yourself.
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Sure, and get sued.commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:13 pmYou don’t have to wait for customers to become ill or for an investigation to take place. Managers can terminate employment based on innuendo or suspicion.henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:56 pmcommonsense wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:51 pm
All it takes is one customer who witnesses the waitress leaving the women’s restroom without washing her hands, one customer who assumes the waitress defecated and who reports the waitress to a manager.
But, mebbe, we're strayin' off topic...
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No worries, then.commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:15 pmScanned over the articles too quickly.henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:09 pmI'm a little confused as to why you thought the survey(s) were hers. Even in my cut & paste of her piece (sans embedded links) she states right up-front where she's gettin' her information.
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jab mandates
Get the jab or you have no job.
Fuck that noise.
As I say (in an email)...
My natural rights notions have at their core 'a man belongs to himself'. His life, liberty, and property are his. His life, liberty,
and property are only forfeit, in part or whole, when he knowingly, willingly, without just cause, deprives another, in part or whole, of life, liberty, or property.
When I refuse to mask up, or lock down, or accept the jab, this -- I believe -- moral fact (a man belongs to himself) is my rock solid foundation. I am mine. I choose. I don't ask that my fellows, or the State, accept this. I demand they recognize it.
Now, I get that it's easier for me to be bold, as a self-employer, than others who depend on a job and paycheck. My customers, insofar as I'm aware, could not care less if I'm wearing a mask, am sequestered in my home, or have been twice, thrice, four times jabbed.
Even so: I can't help but frown at those who go, hat in hand, and 'ask' for an exemption. The mandated jab, to me, is no different than a mandated vulgarity tattooed across the forehead (to work, to eat, to live, you must accept F*** ME on your head). Any one, of any position, who attempted to mandate such an absurdity would -- I hope -- be laughed right out of that position, or simply ignored.
But in America, home to free men and free women, half the population acquiesces, some gleefully, many out of fear, to a demand that is just as absurd. For the gleeful, I have no words. They're dupes and they're dangerous. For the fearful, I can only say 'these directors of your life only have the power you give them. You feed them. It's time to starve the bastards.'
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Seems like starvin' the bastards is a thing now. All manner of business and corp are feelin' the pinch as employees say no to the jab and walk. They're sayin' I may not have a job today but you may be out of business tomorrow.
Good.
Fuck that noise.
As I say (in an email)...
My natural rights notions have at their core 'a man belongs to himself'. His life, liberty, and property are his. His life, liberty,
and property are only forfeit, in part or whole, when he knowingly, willingly, without just cause, deprives another, in part or whole, of life, liberty, or property.
When I refuse to mask up, or lock down, or accept the jab, this -- I believe -- moral fact (a man belongs to himself) is my rock solid foundation. I am mine. I choose. I don't ask that my fellows, or the State, accept this. I demand they recognize it.
Now, I get that it's easier for me to be bold, as a self-employer, than others who depend on a job and paycheck. My customers, insofar as I'm aware, could not care less if I'm wearing a mask, am sequestered in my home, or have been twice, thrice, four times jabbed.
Even so: I can't help but frown at those who go, hat in hand, and 'ask' for an exemption. The mandated jab, to me, is no different than a mandated vulgarity tattooed across the forehead (to work, to eat, to live, you must accept F*** ME on your head). Any one, of any position, who attempted to mandate such an absurdity would -- I hope -- be laughed right out of that position, or simply ignored.
But in America, home to free men and free women, half the population acquiesces, some gleefully, many out of fear, to a demand that is just as absurd. For the gleeful, I have no words. They're dupes and they're dangerous. For the fearful, I can only say 'these directors of your life only have the power you give them. You feed them. It's time to starve the bastards.'
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Seems like starvin' the bastards is a thing now. All manner of business and corp are feelin' the pinch as employees say no to the jab and walk. They're sayin' I may not have a job today but you may be out of business tomorrow.
Good.
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What are you afraid of Henry; that you will become impotent?
You do realise that all this conspiracy bullshit is being cooked up by American (of course) evangelical fuckwits who want armageddon so they can 'ascend to heaven in the great rapture' don't you?
I wondered why the protests here consist of nearly all males, and practically all of them from cultures with a strong 'macho' influence and behaviour so I looked into it and sure enough, there are garbage videos claiming that the vaccine causes male infertility (shame it doesn't, because a vaccine that sterilises the stupid and gullible would be very handy indeed...).
You do realise that all this conspiracy bullshit is being cooked up by American (of course) evangelical fuckwits who want armageddon so they can 'ascend to heaven in the great rapture' don't you?
I wondered why the protests here consist of nearly all males, and practically all of them from cultures with a strong 'macho' influence and behaviour so I looked into it and sure enough, there are garbage videos claiming that the vaccine causes male infertility (shame it doesn't, because a vaccine that sterilises the stupid and gullible would be very handy indeed...).
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Here's a better question: why are so very many of the people who are declining the needle already workers in heathcare?commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:16 am Anyone who works in a hospital, a clinic, or as an EMT or Paramedic should be fired for refusing to be vaccinated against locally prevalent communicable diseases, including COVID.
What do they know about those medications that the rest of us are not being told?
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Because Americans are stupid kunts?Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:04 pmHere's a better question: why are so very many of the people who are declining the needle already workers in heathcare?commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:16 am Anyone who works in a hospital, a clinic, or as an EMT or Paramedic should be fired for refusing to be vaccinated against locally prevalent communicable diseases, including COVID.
What do they know about those medications that the rest of us are not being told?
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It has nothing to do with Americans. It's happening all over.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:49 pmBecause Americans are stupid kunts?Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:04 pmHere's a better question: why are so very many of the people who are declining the needle already workers in heathcare?commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:16 am Anyone who works in a hospital, a clinic, or as an EMT or Paramedic should be fired for refusing to be vaccinated against locally prevalent communicable diseases, including COVID.
What do they know about those medications that the rest of us are not being told?
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That's where all the lies are coming from and where the anti-vax bullshit is strongest.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:56 pmIt has nothing to do with Americans. It's happening all over.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:49 pmBecause Americans are stupid kunts?Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:04 pm
Here's a better question: why are so very many of the people who are declining the needle already workers in heathcare?
What do they know about those medications that the rest of us are not being told?
You're a relgious nut job, so you are conditioned to believe bullshit.
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Whatever the causes of lack of ordinary professional discipline among health care workers (or any other workers) workers in any ethical industry should do their best work . That includes wearing appropriate work clothing, and not spreading disease germs. If workers don't comply willingly they should receive the ultimatum from the employer to get the damn jab and stop whinging about it.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:56 pmIt has nothing to do with Americans. It's happening all over.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:49 pmBecause Americans are stupid kunts?Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:04 pm
Here's a better question: why are so very many of the people who are declining the needle already workers in heathcare?
What do they know about those medications that the rest of us are not being told?
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From the health care workers, you mean?vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:09 pmThat's where all the lies are coming from and where the anti-vax bullshit is strongest.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:56 pmIt has nothing to do with Americans. It's happening all over.
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What if they know the vaccines have side effects that are not being reported, or that they actuall make the disease worse? Then ought they to knuckle under, contrary to what they know is good?
There's some reason that so many health-care professionals are refusing the vaccine, even at the cost of their jobs. And you can't say it's because they hate science, or want to kill people, or are all religious nut-jobs. That doesn't remotely make sense as an explanation.
Something's getting buried, I suspect.
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From the US. I'm sure the health sector isn't immune to religious bullshit.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:18 pmFrom the health care workers, you mean?vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:09 pmThat's where all the lies are coming from and where the anti-vax bullshit is strongest.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:56 pm
It has nothing to do with Americans. It's happening all over.
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Oooh, right. There MUST be a conspiracy somewhere eh? I mean, paramedics would have to have special insight and access to information the rest of us don'tImmanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:21 pmWhat if they know the vaccines have side effects that are not being reported, or that they actuall make the disease worse? Then ought they to knuckle under, contrary to what they know is good?
There's some reason that so many health-care professionals are refusing the vaccine, even at the cost of their jobs. And you can't say it's because they hate science, or want to kill people, or are all religious nut-jobs. That doesn't remotely make sense as an explanation.
Something's getting buried, I suspect.