Natural death causing viruses prove that humans are never free

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Dontaskme wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:35 pm
henry quirk wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:31 pm

there ain't no national health crisis...the crisis is the on-goin' over-reaction to a nasty cold
Well it doesn't matter what you think, whether it is an over-reaction or not, you still have to obey the law enforcers whether you like it or not, you have no choice or freedom to disobey, and that's just how law works, the law is just not interested in your over-emotional state of mind.
mebbe I'll start tomorrow (but, probably not)
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The virus which is invisible to the naked eye has more power than the entire visible us army.

That's the funniest joke of all, the virus will have the last laugh, as do all viruses.

Ugh!!
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Dontaskme wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:52 pm The virus which is invisible to the naked eye has more power than the entire visible us army.

That's the funniest joke of all, the virus will have the last laugh, as do all viruses.

Ugh!!
the virus is an excuse...that's all it's ever been
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henry quirk wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:58 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:52 pm The virus which is invisible to the naked eye has more power than the entire visible us army.

That's the funniest joke of all, the virus will have the last laugh, as do all viruses.

Ugh!!
the virus is an excuse...that's all it's ever been


Doesn't matter if it's being used as an excuse, a virus is a virus, they are not your friend, it will have it's way with you, if that is your fate, you are at the mercy of a virus, not the other way around. Your own body is full of viruses and bacteria, your own immune system can turn on you at any time killing you without the slightest bit of empathy for how you feel about that.

Virus wins, you lose...fact.
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Dontaskme wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:09 pm
Virus wins, you lose...fact.
Actually, it’s virus sometimes wins.
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commonsense wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:27 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:09 pm
Virus wins, you lose...fact.
Actually, it’s virus sometimes wins.
If that's your fate.
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Dontaskme wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:09 pm
henry quirk wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:58 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:52 pm The virus which is invisible to the naked eye has more power than the entire visible us army.

That's the funniest joke of all, the virus will have the last laugh, as do all viruses.

Ugh!!
the virus is an excuse...that's all it's ever been


Doesn't matter if it's being used as an excuse, a virus is a virus, they are not your friend, it will have it's way with you, if that is your fate, you are at the mercy of a virus, not the other way around. Your own body is full of viruses and bacteria, your own immune system can turn on you at any time killing you without the slightest bit of empathy for how you feel about that.

Virus wins, you lose...fact.
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No matter what you believe it's a good idea to protect your nearest and dearest by keeping away from crowded spaces, and wearing a mask in case you are a carrier.
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Belinda wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:27 pm No matter what you believe it's a good idea to protect your nearest and dearest by keeping away from crowded spaces, and wearing a mask in case you are a carrier.
Yes, and most importantly protect the heath services. ( That is the MAIN PRIORITY ) Hospitals and staff are only designed to cope with X amount of people at a time. When this X amount goes beyond the bounds and limits of normal everyday running capacity to cope, then this is not an ideal scenario. No one, not even our governments want to enforce lockdowns or put in place tough restrictions, but when times get unusually difficult and tough like they are during this current pandemic then there is no other alternative. Overwhelmed hospitals are not the ideal, even worse is if medics are gettting sick too which would only exacerbate the problem even more, the inevitable shortages of doctors and nurses would not be ideal in a time when there is an unusually high number of sick and dying people.

So we're stuck between a rock and a hard place no matter what we do or don't do. Pandemics are not to be ignored. It's about the capacity to run hospitals with maximum efficient safety and assurance. If we do not protect the health system then we're all doomed. Imagine being in a really bad car accident and then needing urgent assistance, but the hospitals are full of covid patients, and the doctors are all too busy, or too sick..we then live in a scenario where we are to choose who to save and who to let die.

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