2020: not safe for anyone

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henry quirk wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:26 pm
Belinda wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:18 pm
henry quirk wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:02 pm

context, B
Why else would slave keepers terrorise their slaves? nobody likes being bossed around, so rulers have to do the carrot and stick technique. Slave owners don't need to bother with the carrot as the slaves can't vote.
common wrote about people gettin' along, I explained why that's not possible (cuz fundamentally, the struggle is between two opposin' view points with no common ground)

get it?
I do get it. Some points of view are intolerable, and I hope I'd risk life and limb to fight for the right as I see it.There is such a thing as a just war.
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Belinda wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:39 pm
henry quirk wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:26 pm
Belinda wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:18 pm
Why else would slave keepers terrorise their slaves? nobody likes being bossed around, so rulers have to do the carrot and stick technique. Slave owners don't need to bother with the carrot as the slaves can't vote.
common wrote about people gettin' along, I explained why that's not possible (cuz fundamentally, the struggle is between two opposin' view points with no common ground)

get it?
I do get it. Some points of view are intolerable, and I hope I'd risk life and limb to fight for the right as I see it.There is such a thing as a just war.
too bad we -- you & me-- would be on opposite sides
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henry quirk wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:00 pm
commonsense wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:19 pm
henry quirk wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:02 pm

context, C
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I'm calm but aware
Thanks. That would mean that you’re cool and awake. I wasn’t far off after all!
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Not safe hasn't even started yet.
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henry quirk wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:39 pm
Belinda wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:39 pm
henry quirk wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:26 pm

common wrote about people gettin' along, I explained why that's not possible (cuz fundamentally, the struggle is between two opposin' view points with no common ground)

get it?
I do get it. Some points of view are intolerable, and I hope I'd risk life and limb to fight for the right as I see it.There is such a thing as a just war.
too bad we -- you & me-- would be on opposite sides
Your comment adds weight to the opinion expressed by Commonsense. The best thing to actually do is for all sides in a dispute to gather the most reliable info and the finest judges , and discuss terms with each other before violence.When violence is unavoidable there is international law, and accepted rules of war regarding treatment of prisoners and civilians.
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Belinda wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:31 am
henry quirk wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:39 pm
Belinda wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:39 pm
I do get it. Some points of view are intolerable, and I hope I'd risk life and limb to fight for the right as I see it.There is such a thing as a just war.
too bad we -- you & me-- would be on opposite sides
Your comment adds weight to the opinion expressed by Commonsense. The best thing to actually do is for all sides in a dispute to gather the most reliable info and the finest judges , and discuss terms with each other before violence.When violence is unavoidable there is international law, and accepted rules of war regarding treatment of prisoners and civilians.
international law & courts is sorta like small claims court: you can get a judgement against the other guy from the court, but enforcin' is on you

anyway: I'm not talkin' about a disputed tract of land or some unjust embargo...what's on the table today, it seems to me, is the very direct & plain war between freedom and slavery...there are folks who see themselves as the directors of all men and they aren't dissuaded by reason, and there are folks who are free, who intend to stay free, and they won't be moved by threats

what's the common ground between them?

what meaningful accommodations can either side make?

as dubious sez Not safe hasn't even started yet.

there's an inertia in place now: what's comin' is comin'
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HQ, why are you preaching from the anti-Trump handbook? I thought you were FOR Trump the Schlump.
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commonsense wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:35 pm HQ, why are you preaching from the anti-Trump handbook? I thought you were FOR Trump the Schlump.
I don't think I've said anything anti-ORANGE MAN, but if I have: meh

ORANGE MAN is my instrument, not my leader
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