2020: not safe for anyone

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commonsense wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:39 pm Ah!!! I totally misread your post. This is the inverse of your claim.
No problem. I trust you get it now.
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commonsense wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:57 pm To Anyone and Everyone:

No matter who you are or what you believe, your opponents’ views are the same as the Bizarro World version of your own.

Have a little empathy. Understand that your opponent is in the same frustrating predicament as you.

You think they will destroy whatever is most important to America. They think the same of you.

You think they are all extremists. They think your side harbors extreme beliefs.

You think they are demented. They think you are demented.

From either viewpoint, we are right and they are Bizarro.

We can’t all be right, but I suppose we can all be Bizarro.
Can we all just get along? R. King

no, we can't

consider...

rbg is dead and I'm hearin' the standard disclaimer, I disagreed with her on virtually everything but I respected her as a justice and a person

how exactly does that work?

how does one separate the person from the ideas he's holds?

if one truly believes the ideas point in the direction of the leash, how can one respect the person who holds to such ideas?

there is no common ground between the slaver and the free: it's not possible
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If you cut me, do I not bleed as you?

No one? No one at all?

You do realize, don’t you, that those who say it’s OK to hate the messenger should expect the same vitriol from the other side of an issue?
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In numbers there is strength. Who wants to fight alone against millions? Mostly the rugged individualists, I suppose.
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If you cut me, do I not bleed as you?

No one? No one at all?

You do realize, don’t you, that those who say it’s OK to hate the messenger should expect the same vitriol from the other side of an issue?


the man who wants a leash 'round my neck, he's whose messenger?

I'm well aware of the hatred, by the slaver, for the free

we all bleed: I aim to make him bleed more than me


In numbers there is strength. Who wants to fight alone against millions? Mostly the rugged individualists, I suppose

anyone who is free and intends to stay that way
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Chill man, chill.
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commonsense wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:21 am Chill man, chill.
I'm 😎 but not :zzz:
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henry quirk wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:44 am
commonsense wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:21 am Chill man, chill.
I'm 😎 but not :zzz:
You’re cool but not sleeping?
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Henry Quirk wrote:
I'm well aware of the hatred, by the slaver, for the free
That may be though I doubt it. Cruel and exploitative slave owners are afraid of their slaves which is why they terrorise them into submission. Once enslaved people know they have nothing to lose but their chains they rebel against cruel and exploitative political masters.
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Belinda wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:04 am Henry Quirk wrote:
I'm well aware of the hatred, by the slaver, for the free
That may be though I doubt it. Cruel and exploitative slave owners are afraid of their slaves which is why they terrorise them into submission. Once enslaved people know they have nothing to lose but their chains they rebel against cruel and exploitative political masters.
context, B
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commonsense wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:31 am
henry quirk wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:44 am
commonsense wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:21 am Chill man, chill.
I'm 😎 but not :zzz:
You’re cool but not sleeping?
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henry quirk wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:02 pm
commonsense wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:31 am
henry quirk wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:44 am

I'm 😎 but not :zzz:
You’re cool but not sleeping?
context, C
?????
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commonsense wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:19 pm
henry quirk wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:02 pm
commonsense wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:31 am

You’re cool but not sleeping?
context, C
?????
I'm calm but aware
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henry quirk wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:02 pm
Belinda wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:04 am Henry Quirk wrote:
I'm well aware of the hatred, by the slaver, for the free
That may be though I doubt it. Cruel and exploitative slave owners are afraid of their slaves which is why they terrorise them into submission. Once enslaved people know they have nothing to lose but their chains they rebel against cruel and exploitative political masters.
context, B
Why else would slave keepers terrorise their slaves? nobody likes being bossed around, so rulers have to do the carrot and stick technique. Slave owners don't need to bother with the carrot as the slaves can't vote.
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Belinda wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:18 pm
henry quirk wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:02 pm
Belinda wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:04 am Henry Quirk wrote:



That may be though I doubt it. Cruel and exploitative slave owners are afraid of their slaves which is why they terrorise them into submission. Once enslaved people know they have nothing to lose but their chains they rebel against cruel and exploitative political masters.
context, B
Why else would slave keepers terrorise their slaves? nobody likes being bossed around, so rulers have to do the carrot and stick technique. Slave owners don't need to bother with the carrot as the slaves can't vote.
common wrote about people gettin' along, I explained why that's not possible (cuz fundamentally, the struggle is between two opposin' view points with no common ground)

get it?
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