No there was never any reason to believe this virus would kill millions upon millions of people like they said it would if we didn't trade in our liberty, but every reason to believe global lockdown would destroy billions of jobs and starve hundreds of millions of people, just like there was never any reason to believe Saddam Hussein had ties with Al Qaeda or WMDs.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 11:11 pmThere is really no point in commenting about Sweden's result. If they did the right thing then you can be terribly wise 'with hindsight' They took a huge gamble. It may turn out to have been the right thing to do, or it may not. It's not over for them yet. Perhaps they will get herd immunity. The POINT is that NO ONE KNOWS YET!Gloominary wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 9:30 pmOr, the virus isn't as infectious as predicted, and that's why it's not spreading, or, the virus hasn't spread (much) more in countries, provinces, regions and states that didn't lock themselves down than it has in countries, provinces and so on that did, because lockdown is ineffective.
What tangible proof do they have that lockdown is effective?
Nothing like this has ever been tried before on anything like this scale in modernity.
Would you be happier if they didn't include the very old in the statistics?
They should only say a person died of Covid if they can prove they wouldn't've died immediately or within days or weeks had they not contracted Covid.
Lockdown has costs, like billions of newly unemployed and hundreds of millions of starving people, and supposedly it has a benefit, the prevention of the spread of Covid.How would that make a difference to your opinion?
The more costs there are, and the less deaths it'll prevent, the less lockdown is warranted.
Sweden didn't lock itself down Covid has appeared to have peaked there.You can't take the virus away once a person has it, but you can limit its spread. What kind of a result would satisfy you?
If instead of 3000 of 10 million Swedes dying say 100 thousand or 1 million died, which's what they said was going to happen if we didn't lock ourselves down, then maybe they'd have an argument.
3000 of 10 million or 0.03% of the Swedes is nothing, about 100 000 Swedes die every year of every accident and every disease.
And of those 3000 how many would've died anyway had they not contracted Covid?
Probably most if not almost all of them.
And of those that wouldn't've died anyway, how many could they saved had they locked themselves down?
Some of Sweden's neighbors like Belgium and Netherlands that locked themselves down faired worse than Sweden.
There's no proof they would've saved a single person had they locked themselves down.
It's a nothing burger, just like the war on drugs, the war on terror, Christine Blasey Ford, Russian collusion, bird and swine flu, Ebola, hantavirus, West Nile Virus, MERS, SARS and so on.
Just another pretext to expand big business, government, pharma and MSM at the expense of our liberty and prosperity.