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I thought that early on it was estimated that there would be something around 1 - 4 % of people getting Coronavirus in the U.S. Why are the positivity rates so much higher?
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commonsense wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:49 pm I thought that early on it was estimated that there would be something around 1 - 4 % of people getting Coronavirus in the U.S. Why are the positivity rates so much higher?
Cuz beer virus is way more widespread (and far less malign) than folks think.

It's a nasty cold virus; cold *viri are everywhere.









*viri? viruses?
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henry quirk wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:01 pm https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fox-3 ... 19-results

as I say: we don't have a friggin' clue as to the real (infection, hospitalization, death, and recovery) numbers

too many cooks in the kitchen, too many hands in the pot

incompetence & agenda have screwed the pooch

double counts, deaths with beer virus bein' counted as deaths from beer virus, deaths listed as from beer virus where there's no confirmation of beer virus infection, the likelihood beer virus is far more asymptomatic and widespread than reported, and on and on, all contribute to the notion of Coronapocalype when, really, it's just a nasty cold

as I say: we've been, are bein', hoodwnked
https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fox-3 ... d-19-death
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The risk of something falling on your head isn’t as bad as the risk of being struck by a car when you’re crossing the street. Instead of wearing a helmet like the Swiss doctor says, you should take the seat belt out of your car and wear it all the time.
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commonsense wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:03 pm
The risk of something falling on your head isn’t as bad as the risk of being struck by a car when you’re crossing the street. Instead of wearing a helmet like the Swiss doctor says, you should take the seat belt out of your car and wear it all the time.
what do helmets, seatbelts, and masks have in common?

they're all optional (or should be)
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henry quirk wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:39 pm *Total number of reported COVID-19 deaths for the entire world as of Friday, April 17, 2020: 145,144
You might find this, "perspective," different:

An Interview With A Moralist -- "It Is Immoral To Wear A Mask"

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I'll be generous and just say Binker is wrong.

Moral reality is narrow and individual. It has nuthin' at all to do with the grand scheme.
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henry quirk wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:33 pm I'll be generous and just say Binker is wrong.

Moral reality is narrow and individual. It has nuthin' at all to do with the grand scheme.
That is generous. There is no Binker but his "ideas" are totally consistent with today's so-called moral thinking while flying in the face of the idiots who promote them.

"We have to save the world from the Corona virus and if we have to ruin the lives of every human being to do it, it will be worth it."

The whole article is satirical fiction.
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"The whole article is satirical fiction."

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The world is nutty right now (more so than usual).

Wouldn't surprise me if, right now, some academic were writin' up a paper mirrorin' the view of your fictional doc.
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henry quirk wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:56 pm The world is nutty right now (more so than usual).

Wouldn't surprise me if, right now, some academic were writin' up a paper mirrorin' the view of your fictional doc.
You seem to be saying, here and elsewhere, that wearing a mask is not immoral and no one should have to wear a mask or there’s not a person who should be moral

How do you resolve this apparent conflict?
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