Logic: Where Correct Thought and Correct Sense Contradict
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Re: Logic: Where Correct Thought and Correct Sense Contradict
A contradiction, you say!! Where?!
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Re: Logic: Where Correct Thought and Correct Sense Contradict
In looking for a contradiction and seeing none a contradiction occurs.Agent Smith wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 9:57 pm A contradiction, you say!! Where?!
There, look, there!!
Where's the ... the ....?
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In looking for no contradiction and seeing one a contradiction occurs.
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Re: Logic: Where Correct Thought and Correct Sense Contradict
Si, contradictions are everywhere. We should do something about them.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 7:53 pmIn looking for a contradiction and seeing none a contradiction occurs.Agent Smith wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 9:57 pm A contradiction, you say!! Where?!
There, look, there!!
Where's the ... the ....?
I know what you're looking for! Hehehe!
Hahaha! Please, let's kill time!
Let's!
In looking for no contradiction and seeing one a contradiction occurs.
Re: Logic: Where Correct Thought and Correct Sense Contradict
To contradict contradictions would be a contradiction; order is a contradiction as well as disorder. Why?Agent Smith wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 2:22 amSi, contradictions are everywhere. We should do something about them.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 7:53 pmIn looking for a contradiction and seeing none a contradiction occurs.Agent Smith wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 9:57 pm A contradiction, you say!! Where?!
There, look, there!!
Where's the ... the ....?
I know what you're looking for! Hehehe!
Hahaha! Please, let's kill time!
Let's!
In looking for no contradiction and seeing one a contradiction occurs.
1. A square is symmetrical thus ordered. However there is the space inside the square and the space outside a square. The space between the inner and outer is the square itself as space, thus the square is the contradiction of space being seperated from space as space.
2. A form stands apart from another form thus creating asymmetry; this asymmetry is irrational as there is no balance because one form stands apart from another form.... thus a contradiction occurs.
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Re: Logic: Where Correct Thought and Correct Sense Contradict
You lost me there pal. Nonetheless, I have a vague idea of what you're getting at. I like it! However ... from this and other posts, ya should be of a particular flavor, like the strange (flavor) quark which means all bets are off, that is to say times up!Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 9:22 pmTo contradict contradictions would be a contradiction; order is a contradiction as well as disorder. Why?Agent Smith wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 2:22 amSi, contradictions are everywhere. We should do something about them.
1. A square is symmetrical thus ordered. However there is the space inside the square and the space outside a square. The space between the inner and outer is the square itself as space, thus the square is the contradiction of space being seperated from space as space.
2. A form stands apart from another form thus creating asymmetry; this asymmetry is irrational as there is no balance because one form stands apart from another form.... thus a contradiction occurs.
Re: Logic: Where Correct Thought and Correct Sense Contradict
Is a circle with radius 0 a point?PeteOlcott wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 10:09 pm An {abstract} circle is the only kind of actual circle, an {empirical} tree has no perfect
mathematical abstraction because unlike a circle it is not an object of mathematics.
An abstract circle is a model that empirical circles can only imprecisely approximate.
You are yet to work your way up to Grothendieck's perspective. Everything is parametrizable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grothendi ... nt_of_view
Re: Logic: Where Correct Thought and Correct Sense Contradict
There is space inside a circle.Agent Smith wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:29 amYou lost me there pal. Nonetheless, I have a vague idea of what you're getting at. I like it! However ... from this and other posts, ya should be of a particular flavor, like the strange (flavor) quark which means all bets are off, that is to say times up!Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 9:22 pmTo contradict contradictions would be a contradiction; order is a contradiction as well as disorder. Why?Agent Smith wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 2:22 am
Si, contradictions are everywhere. We should do something about them.
1. A square is symmetrical thus ordered. However there is the space inside the square and the space outside a square. The space between the inner and outer is the square itself as space, thus the square is the contradiction of space being seperated from space as space.
2. A form stands apart from another form thus creating asymmetry; this asymmetry is irrational as there is no balance because one form stands apart from another form.... thus a contradiction occurs.
There is space outside the circle.
The space between the inner and outer is the circle (the circle is space between spaces).
Space dividing space is a contradiction and all forms require this contradiction as all forms are space dividing space.
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Re: Logic: Where Correct Thought and Correct Sense Contradict
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:26 pmThere is space inside a circle.Agent Smith wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:29 amYou lost me there pal. Nonetheless, I have a vague idea of what you're getting at. I like it! However ... from this and other posts, ya should be of a particular flavor, like the strange (flavor) quark which means all bets are off, that is to say times up!Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 9:22 pm
To contradict contradictions would be a contradiction; order is a contradiction as well as disorder. Why?
1. A square is symmetrical thus ordered. However there is the space inside the square and the space outside a square. The space between the inner and outer is the square itself as space, thus the square is the contradiction of space being seperated from space as space.
2. A form stands apart from another form thus creating asymmetry; this asymmetry is irrational as there is no balance because one form stands apart from another form.... thus a contradiction occurs.
There is space outside the circle.
The space between the inner and outer is the circle (the circle is space between spaces).
Space dividing space is a contradiction and all forms require this contradiction as all forms are space dividing space.
Are ya sure about that?
Re: Logic: Where Correct Thought and Correct Sense Contradict
A form is a space between spaces thus space is divided against itself. All forms are composed of space as they have boundaries/limits.Agent Smith wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:55 pmEodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:26 pmThere is space inside a circle.Agent Smith wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:29 am
You lost me there pal. Nonetheless, I have a vague idea of what you're getting at. I like it! However ... from this and other posts, ya should be of a particular flavor, like the strange (flavor) quark which means all bets are off, that is to say times up!
There is space outside the circle.
The space between the inner and outer is the circle (the circle is space between spaces).
Space dividing space is a contradiction and all forms require this contradiction as all forms are space dividing space.
Are ya sure about that?
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Re: Logic: Where Correct Thought and Correct Sense Contradict
Please respond to the anticipated objection.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:23 pmA form is a space between spaces thus space is divided against itself. All forms are composed of space as they have boundaries/limits.Agent Smith wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:55 pmEodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:26 pm
There is space inside a circle.
There is space outside the circle.
The space between the inner and outer is the circle (the circle is space between spaces).
Space dividing space is a contradiction and all forms require this contradiction as all forms are space dividing space.
Are ya sure about that?
Re: Logic: Where Correct Thought and Correct Sense Contradict
But not all actual existing forms are relative.
So not so-called 'all logic' is relative.
Therefore the rest is moot.
Will you provide actual examples?
If no, then why not?
Also, what does the word 'logic' even mean to you?
And, according to you OWN 'logic' here "eodhnoj7" what you just CLAIMED here is NOT universally true. Therefore, this means that what you say and claim here is just your OWN truth ONLY, or in other words is true to you ONLY. Which upon further examination WILL BE SEEN to be the ACTUAL UNIVERSAL Truth.
AGAIN, this is 'true' to you ONLY, but False in ACTUAL ACTUALITY.
False AGAIN. But, AGAIN, NOT to you, ALONE.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:55 pm The problem occurs as the statements 'logic is dependent upon forms' and 'forms are relative' are true statements universally as they can be repeatably verified empirically (i.e. we can see forms in all logic and we can also see that forms are relative as they compare and contrast to other forms).
Under these terms correct abstractions and correct empirical observations contradict.
Re: Logic: Where Correct Thought and Correct Sense Contradict
It is what I see and reality occurs through perception as we act on our perception.Agent Smith wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:35 amPlease respond to the anticipated objection.
Re: Logic: Where Correct Thought and Correct Sense Contradict
You contradict the argument I provided. My argument occurs through the senses, as it must be typed and read (physical reality is formed through it), and your abstractions do not align with it. My point stands.Age wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:04 amBut not all actual existing forms are relative.
So not so-called 'all logic' is relative.
Therefore the rest is moot.
Will you provide actual examples?
If no, then why not?
Also, what does the word 'logic' even mean to you?And, according to you OWN 'logic' here "eodhnoj7" what you just CLAIMED here is NOT universally true. Therefore, this means that what you say and claim here is just your OWN truth ONLY, or in other words is true to you ONLY. Which upon further examination WILL BE SEEN to be the ACTUAL UNIVERSAL Truth.
AGAIN, this is 'true' to you ONLY, but False in ACTUAL ACTUALITY.False AGAIN. But, AGAIN, NOT to you, ALONE.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:55 pm The problem occurs as the statements 'logic is dependent upon forms' and 'forms are relative' are true statements universally as they can be repeatably verified empirically (i.e. we can see forms in all logic and we can also see that forms are relative as they compare and contrast to other forms).
Under these terms correct abstractions and correct empirical observations contradict.
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Re: Logic: Where Correct Thought and Correct Sense Contradict
OF COURSE your point stands, but to you ALONE.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:11 pmYou contradict the argument I provided. My argument occurs through the senses, as it must be typed and read (physical reality is formed through it), and your abstractions do not align with it. My point stands.Age wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:04 amBut not all actual existing forms are relative.
So not so-called 'all logic' is relative.
Therefore the rest is moot.
Will you provide actual examples?
If no, then why not?
Also, what does the word 'logic' even mean to you?And, according to you OWN 'logic' here "eodhnoj7" what you just CLAIMED here is NOT universally true. Therefore, this means that what you say and claim here is just your OWN truth ONLY, or in other words is true to you ONLY. Which upon further examination WILL BE SEEN to be the ACTUAL UNIVERSAL Truth.
AGAIN, this is 'true' to you ONLY, but False in ACTUAL ACTUALITY.False AGAIN. But, AGAIN, NOT to you, ALONE.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 11:55 pm The problem occurs as the statements 'logic is dependent upon forms' and 'forms are relative' are true statements universally as they can be repeatably verified empirically (i.e. we can see forms in all logic and we can also see that forms are relative as they compare and contrast to other forms).
Under these terms correct abstractions and correct empirical observations contradict.
Absolutely NO one here, besides you, is agreeing with you. And this is for the very simple fact that your so-called 'argument' is NOT sound and valid.
Now, you might BELIEVE that there are "others" who agree with you and/or are accepting your argument but I challenge you to name any of them.
Or, if ANY one would like to come forward and say that you agree with "eodhnoj7" here, then please feel free to come forward and make "yourself" known.