Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:24 am
roydop wrote: ↑Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:43 pm
Having discovered the purpose of life and engaging in that purpose has led to completion. What you could not see or understand is that I was abiding in/as effortless thought free Awareness, which is synonymous with Happiness
Flat out perfect contentment and happiness
Seems reasonable to me that consciousness that has a better understanding of Reality will experience less suffering and more happiness than consciousness that is in delusion
You need to include the other side of the natural state of nature, which is pain, distress, anxiety, misery and suffering, and not just focus on nature's more pleasurable happy and contenment side of the equation.
But is it okay to focus on the "side" that 'you', adult human beings, experience?
Also, is 'contentment', itself, in ANY "side"?
If yes, then WHY, and HOW?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:24 am
It is obvious and self-evident that there are two sides to nature.
NOT to me.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:24 am
And no one side is more dominant or more important than the other, they are both crucial to nature tendancies to operate
To me there are NO "sides" AT ALL to the one and ONLY One.
'you', adult human beings, however, have separated, labelled, and placed 'your' 'feelings' as beings on one "side" OR "another". Which, by the way, does NOT ACTUALLY exist, other than in concept or thought, OBVIOUSLY.
Making a perceived, and delusional, 'separatism' causes and creates a 'dualism', which does NOT ACTUALLY exist, again, except in thought or concept alone.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:24 am
toward maintaining an equilibrium and balance. And this is far from a pretty sight.
Nature, Itself, ALWAYS exists and SITS in equilibrium and balance. And, it is ONLY 'you', adult human beings, who take, make, and SEE 'things' 'out-of-balance'.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:24 am
The purpose of life is to watch yourself die.
So, it appears that there are TWO DIFFERENT 'purposes' of 'life', itself. Which is now a great time to SHOW that there can be as MANY DIFFERENT 'versions' or 'meanings' of 'things' as there are DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:24 am
Sometimes in a slow, painful horrible agonising way. This truth is self-evident.
This so-called 'truth' may be so-called 'self-evident' to 'you', the 'one' here known as "dontaskme", but that is NOT 'truth' NOR 'self evident' to just about ANY one else.
Just out of curiosity are 'you' AWARE that "others" do NOT think NOR see 'things' the SAME WAY that 'you' do, "dontaskme"?
'Slow', 'painful', 'horrible', and 'agonizing' are all 'things', like EVERY 'thing' else, which are ALL, VERY, RELATIVE.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:24 am
The natural state of life is both a bloody battle and struggle for survival and at times sublimely awe inspiring, peaceful and stressfree.
WHEN, EXACTLY, are so-called "kings" and "queens" in a so-called 'bloody battle' and/or 'struggling for survival'?
Or, maybe they do NOT live in the 'natural state of life', correct?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:24 am
But all those negative and positive concepts are just labels used to interpret or define what are already being observed as obvious self-evident aspects of nature at work.
When 'you' say and state 'are just labels', are 'you' here inferring that they are NOT real and actual 'things', or inferring some thing else?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:24 am
These empty conceptual overlays upon the real and true self-evident nature of reality have been artificially superimposed by the human mind which is nothing more than an anthropomorphic illusory construction.
ONCE AGAIN, 'you' are completely and utterly CONTRADICTING "your" 'self' here.
Are there TWO "sides" to nature or NOT?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:24 am
In reality, there's simply what is happening, and there is absolutely no thing that is making what is happening happen,
Well then HOW THEN is EVERY thing being CREATED, or CAUSED?
If 'what is happening' is NOT being caused by absolutely ANY 'thing', then HOW is ALL-OF-THIS 'happening'?
For example, how are these words, which 'you' are reading on the screen in front of 'you', 'happening' if there is absolutely NO 'thing' making them appear, and 'this' 'happen'?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:24 am
nor is there anything that can make it not happen.
But, OBVIOUSLY, there is NO thing that can make 'what is happening' NOT happen.
Does this REALLY need to be said or spoken about for 'you', human beings, to REALIZE and SEE this IRREFUTABLE Fact?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:24 am
There is simply this immediate happening as it is being observed.
In reality,
WHY do 'you', posters, here use the term or phrase, 'In reality, ...', as though this gives more weight to the rest of what 'you' say or write?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:24 am
there's just a cold indifferent parasitic nature at work with itself and only for itself.
LOL you started your reply here by saying and writing,
"You need to include the "other side" ", and, "and not just focus on nature's more pleasurable "side" of the equation", but now you CLAIM that there is JUST "a cold indifferent parasitic ("side" of) nature at work" here.
Are 'you' AWARE of just how MANY TIMES 'you' completely and utterly CONTRADICT "your" OWN 'self' "dontaskme"?
And, of just how STRIKINGLY CONTRADICTORY your CLAIMS and BELIEFS ARE, EXACTLY?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:24 am
The paradox is self-evident that life is both witness to torture and pleasure equally without reservation or favor for one over the other.
When you say that, " 'life' is both WITNESS to torture and pleasure ", what, EXACTLY, do you mean by 'witness' here?
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:24 am
There is no middle ground where peace and stillness is a luxurious safe haven where there is a specially designated place serving as our own personal refuge from and away from the reality of life on earth.
When, and IF, you learn and understand how the Mind and the brain work, then you WILL SEE things COMPLETELY DIFFERENTLY here.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:24 am
Rather, life is a constant fight or flight predatory and parasitical situation where one must always stay alert or be eaten alive or tortured alive by predators.
HOW MANY TIMES do 'you' need to be INFORMED that just because 'you' grew up being tortured 'alive' by predators, that this does NOT mean that "others" have had this EXACT SAME experience as you, before it 'SINKS IN', as some would say?
HOW MANY TIMES do 'you' need to be INFORMED that because they have NOT had the EXACT SAME EXPERIENCES as 'you', then they will NOT grow up to have the EXACT SAME BELIEF that they also HAVE TO ALWAYS 'stay alert' to be eaten alive or tortured alive, by predators?
Also, ONLY 'you', adult human beings, 'torture' things, including YOUR OWN CHILDREN.
There is NO 'torture' ANYWHERE else in the Universe, that is KNOWN OF, and, OF COURSE 'things' NEED to eat, and be eaten. That is JUST (and) HOW Nature works. This IS JUST '
what IS happening', and HOW thee one and ONLY One sustains, Itself.
It/Nature, OBVIOUSLY, does NOT eat Its Self to death, but rather eats Its Self to STAY ALIVE.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:24 am
I'll say it again. The only true and real happy person is a dead person. "Only the dead have seen the end of war"
'you' can keep REPEATING 'your' OWN BELIEFS for as long as 'you' like, but by just doing that will NEVER make what 'you' BELIEVE to be true, true AT ALL.
Also, will 'you' EXPLAIN HOW a so-called 'dead person' could be a little bit of a happy person, let alone only a true and real happy person?
If no, then WHY NOT?
Furthermore, WHY can 'you' TELL "another person" how they can and can not feel, but NO is ALLOWED to TELL 'you' how you feel or can not feel?