The Paradox of the Non-Existence of Self

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commonsense
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Re: The Paradox of the Non-Existence of Self

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Magnolia5275 wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:11 pm
"I don't exist"

Let's assume that I do exist

So it's true that I exist

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Infinity never ends, so I never exist.

I DON'T EXIST

...But I feel like I exist! It's a Paradox!

Can you solve the Paradox?
Infinity never ends, therefore you always exist.

You feel like you exist because you do exist.

Paradoxically it makes sense without containing a paradox .
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Re: The Paradox of the Non-Existence of Self

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Magnolia5275 wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:11 pm Consider this:

"I don't exist"


PROOF:

Let's assume that I do exist

So it's true that I exist

So it's true that it's true that I exist

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Infinity never ends, so I never exist.

I DON'T EXIST

END OF PROOF


...But I feel like I exist! It's a Paradox!

Can you solve the Paradox?
It is true that you exist. You are not getting any new thing by adding it is true to the former. Therefore you exist and there is no paradox.
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Re: The Paradox of the Non-Existence of Self

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You exist and you don’t exist would be a paradox, but you have only claimed without proof that you don’t exist and then claimed with support that you do exist.
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Re: The Paradox of the Non-Existence of Self

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Magnolia5275 wrote: Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:11 pm So it's true that it's true that I exist

So it's true that it's true that it's true that it's true that I exist

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So it's true that it's true that it's true that...[etc.]

Infinity never ends, so I never exist.

I DON'T EXIST

END OF PROOF


...But I feel like I exist! It's a Paradox!

Can you solve the Paradox?
It's not a paradox, as has been pointed out. It also doesn't lead to the conclusion that he doesn't exist. It is an attempt to undermine the assertion that he exists. But it's a pretty basic bit of reason that not being able to prove X does not mean not X is the case.

Further the same 'argument' could be performed on the assertion 'I don't exist.' If the argument is valid against the positive, it's valid against the negative. So, we end up agnostic.

But then other posters have disembowled the effectiveness of this 'argument'. I just wanted to point out that even if it worked, the conclusion is not supported.
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