Is War Inevitable?

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Is War Inevitable?

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Jeffrey Gordon rereads a correspondence on war between Einstein and Freud.

https://philosophynow.org/issues/66/Is_War_Inevitable
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Given humanity's current psychological state, war is inevitable.

But there is hope provided we realize the below in the near future;
Freud has in a sense given us our charge as citizens of the 21st Century.
We must help to forge the bonds of eros among our fellow humans, while increasing the power of our intelligence to channel our instinctual drives.
If we thought through how these two commitments might be enforced in our daily action, each of us would find an agenda for a lifetime.
The above is too general without relevant specifics.

As I had proposed in the Ethical Section, we need to recognize the existence of objective moral facts [verified and justified scientifically], the moral mechanisms in the brain and process them via a moral FSK to develop the individual's moral competence.

To be effective, we have to involve the neurosciences, genetics, genomics, and whatever is advanced knowledge to achieve the intended results.
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Veritas Aequitas wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:18 am Given humanity's current psychological state, war is inevitable.

But there is hope provided we realize the below in the near future;
Freud has in a sense given us our charge as citizens of the 21st Century.
We must help to forge the bonds of eros among our fellow humans, while increasing the power of our intelligence to channel our instinctual drives.
If we thought through how these two commitments might be enforced in our daily action, each of us would find an agenda for a lifetime.
The above is too general without relevant specifics.

As I had proposed in the Ethical Section, we need to recognize the existence of objective moral facts [verified and justified scientifically], the moral mechanisms in the brain and process them via a moral FSK to develop the individual's moral competence.

To be effective, we have to involve the neurosciences, genetics, genomics, and whatever is advanced knowledge to achieve the intended results.
advanced knowledge to breed the perfect human?

you do know what you are saying?

-Imp
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Impenitent wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 9:46 pm
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:18 am Given humanity's current psychological state, war is inevitable.

But there is hope provided we realize the below in the near future;
Freud has in a sense given us our charge as citizens of the 21st Century.
We must help to forge the bonds of eros among our fellow humans, while increasing the power of our intelligence to channel our instinctual drives.
If we thought through how these two commitments might be enforced in our daily action, each of us would find an agenda for a lifetime.
The above is too general without relevant specifics.

As I had proposed in the Ethical Section, we need to recognize the existence of objective moral facts [verified and justified scientifically], the moral mechanisms in the brain and process them via a moral FSK to develop the individual's moral competence.

To be effective, we have to involve the neurosciences, genetics, genomics, and whatever is advanced knowledge to achieve the intended results.
advanced knowledge to breed the perfect human?

you do know what you are saying?

-Imp
Perfection is an impossibility in Reality, i.e. empirical reality.

It is more like ..
... advanced knowledge to enable to evolve naturally [not breed] to be as near as possible toward the impossible-perfect-human - this drive continuous improvements.

Note 10,000 years ago, the humans then would have thought it would take 'perfect' human beings to be able to reach the Moon. Now that we have reached the Moon we are very far from 'perfection' and there is still so much room for humans to be better humans.
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Note 10,000 years ago, the humans then would have thought it would take 'perfect' human beings to be able to reach the Moon. Now that we have reached the Moon we are very far from 'perfection' and there is still so much room for humans to be better humans.
Technological and scientific progress doesn't necessarily mean that humans are perfect nor is it an indication of how morally or ethically advanced the human species is. The far future of mankind will resemble a scene from Star Wars, with all it's inter-galactic battles, it's sophisticated weaponry, the Death Star and it's Darth Vaders.
To assume that as we progress technologically we would also improve in our ability to get along without conflict is being naive or unrealistic.
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Re: Is War Inevitable?

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The question of whether war is inevitable has been a topic of discussion and debate for centuries. Some argue that war is a natural result of human aggression and competition, while others believe that war is caused by specific historical, political, and economic factors.

On one hand, the history of human civilization is marked by wars, conquests, and conflicts, leading some to believe that war is an inherent part of human nature. They argue that people will always find reasons to fight and compete, regardless of their social, cultural, or economic backgrounds.

On the other hand, others argue that war is not inevitable and can be prevented through cooperation, diplomacy, and conflict resolution. They point to examples of peaceful societies and peaceful resolutions of conflicts as evidence that war is not a necessary outcome.

In conclusion, whether war is inevitable or not remains a complex and unresolved question, with arguments on both sides. However, it is important to strive towards peace and work towards resolving conflicts through non-violent means.
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