I think whatever "guilt" is emotionally, it is misnamed. It is more like "shame".Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:39 amYou need to update your knowledge on what is 'guilt'.Sculptor wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:56 pm Gulit in this sense is a legal term. A state of being imposed by the authorities, and not something felt.
All feelings of guilt are fake.
People do have feelings about events in which they think they might have made a mistake.
There are big problems with pinning a name on "feelings" for several reasons. THe main reason is that all feelings are subjective and rarely can a single word exhaust the meaning and quality of the emptional spectrum.
But in this particular case there is a serious problem with feelings of guilt and shame.
There are two ways one can sunder events which have led to error that have led to such feelings.
Either the event was done intentionally or the event has been done unintentionally.
If I acted intentionally then the right response to a mistake would not be guilt. The correct response wopuld be an acknowledgement that I was acting in the best possible way at the time, and that I shall learn from the event to act better next time. If I acted intentionally to cause harm then guilt is not the correct response. The correct resonse is to stand by my actions.
If the mistake happened without my intention then I have nothing to feel sorry for and so guilt is not the correct response, but any recompense I think valuable in the circumstances would be the next thing to do.
Guily is like regret. An empty and useless emotion and no use except as a teaching aid for children.
There was the earlier relevant post, i.e.
viewtopic.php?p=548858#p548858
and my post'Guilt' is not a useless emotion but it has its significance for the rest of humanity as a feedback mechanism to progress on its moral impulse towards the future.
- viewtopic.php?p=549044#p549044
All humans are "programmed" with a potential moral function [algorithm] which is at present has low activity in the majority.
As a functional system, there is a control feedback to monitor progress towards the intended goals.
This control feedback is the guilt emotion and impulse, i.e.
Note 'guilt' is recognized as a real human emotion, albeit a secondary one.WIKI wrote:Guilt is a moral emotion that occurs when a person believes or realizes—accurately or not—that they have compromised their own standards of conduct or have violated universal moral standards and bear significant responsibility for that violation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guilt_(emotion)
At present the moral system within the majority is not very active [thus the presence of terrible evil at present] but when the moral mechanisms within each individual began to be activated more in the future, then the 'guilt feedback' is essential for greater moral progress.
It is not helpful to have a word that stands in for an emotion and at the same time is used as a legal statement of a criminal's condition.
Additionally I would say that othe unhealthy societies would want to demand deep emotional contrition from their subjects.
But then this sort of oppression is common amongst religious fascists like you.
Whereas a healthy society is one which is capable of recognising the Socratic paradox.