Ethics of the Future

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owl of Minerva wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:23 pm Supposedly Native Americans planned for seven generations ahead in terms of conserving their environment, especially the buffalo. Their descendants do not need the buffalo. Patricians supposedly also plan for several generations ahead in terms of education, property and investments. That may work if their descendants are not wastrels. Planning for all as a universal group; a species, might require passing on an ethical code; a way of perceiving life that benefits all under any circumstances that may arise. so pain for some is not gain for others.
The impact of Native Americans on Bison populations was minimal, though their dependancy was great- they has no need, nor did they EVER have to "Plan" for that future.
The US government, knew only too well how important the Bison was as a reseource that they, in fact planned to wipe the Bison from the plains to destroy the economy of the Native peoples.
To that end the US government put a bounty on killing Bison.
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The statement "their descendants do not need buffalo" is extremely crass.
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Walker wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 4:25 am In plain sight for everyone to see, corrupt old politicians enslave seven generations with crushing debt, for no reason worth the cost, and the consequences will mold future ethics.

Revolution or war would change that course.
YTour problem is that you think Trump and the clowns he supports are going to do anything about that.
That "crushing debt" you talk of is owed to the rich by the poor, when it is the poor that has done all the work that made the wealth in the first place.
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owl of Minerva wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:48 pm Culture: Overall Native American as contrasted with European.

What is your view separate and equal? Or assimilation?

I really think that the US should be constent.
It thinks Isreal is a valid nation since the Jews have an indelible claim to the land of Palestine dating back to the time of Hadrian and before.
By the same token white and black people should voluntarily give up the governance of the States to the Native Americans.
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Sculptor wrote:
"The statement "their descendants do not need buffalo" is extremely crass."

"I really think that the US should be constant.
It thinks Israel is a valid nation since the Jews have an indelible claim to the land of Palestine dating back to the time of Hadrian and before.
By the same token white and black people should voluntarily give up the governance of the States to the Native Americans. "
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The statement about the buffalo was not meant to be crass but factual. "Need" was meant in terms of physical survival not in terms of the spiritual connotation that the buffalo has for Native Americans. The buffalo is now being reintroduced and is thriving.

The mistakes the British made in arbitrarily settling people, dividing places up, and interfering in other cultures has created major problems. Once a place has been settled, or conquered, it would be unfair to expect their descendants, who are now at home there, to remove themselves. The only option is for people to learn to get along. In the past "difference" was major. There was the arrogance of the right way to live and perceive the world and a wrong way. It is high time the human race got over its 'my way is better than your way' mentality.
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Philosophy Now wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:29 pm Alexander Joy on the importance of not hurting future people.

https://philosophynow.org/issues/130/Et ... the_Future
I think these geniuses ought to concentrate on solving their own problems in the world right now, and when they've learned to live successfully without wars, and terrorism, and oppressive goverments, then they can worry about future generations.
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