Raymond Tallis perceives a difference between them.
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Perception & Reality
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From the article:
The idea of an uncontaminated appearance revealing the world as it is in itself nevertheless still haunts those philosophers for whom reality as the object of thought is superior to the lived shin-barking push-and-shove existential reality of daily life. We are teased by Parmenides’ idea of a realm lying beyond the reach of our senses.
It was this realm which Immanuel Kant – the greatest and most influential philosopher since Plato – called the featureless ‘noumenal’ realm – by which he meant the world as it is in itself, grounding our experiences of the world but not revealed in them. We should be grateful perhaps to this self-contradictory idea for giving humanity permission to develop world pictures at odds with sense experience – notably those of science – which have mysteriously proved so fertile in transforming our understanding and enhancing our experiences.
The idea of an uncontaminated appearance revealing the world as it is in itself nevertheless still haunts those philosophers for whom reality as the object of thought is superior to the lived shin-barking push-and-shove existential reality of daily life. We are teased by Parmenides’ idea of a realm lying beyond the reach of our senses.
It was this realm which Immanuel Kant – the greatest and most influential philosopher since Plato – called the featureless ‘noumenal’ realm – by which he meant the world as it is in itself, grounding our experiences of the world but not revealed in them. We should be grateful perhaps to this self-contradictory idea for giving humanity permission to develop world pictures at odds with sense experience – notably those of science – which have mysteriously proved so fertile in transforming our understanding and enhancing our experiences.
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An enjoyable article.Philosophy Now wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:47 pm Raymond Tallis perceives a difference between them.
https://philosophynow.org/issues/142/Pe ... nd_Reality
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"We are teased by Parmenides’ idea of a realm lying beyond the reach of our senses."
Everything we experience is derivative the question is from where these things are derived. We have a body, consciousness, thoughts, strength but we are none of these things, we experience them second-hand. If we think of nightly dreams as a play of ideas on substance; similarly what we perceive as reality could also be a play of ideas on substance.
Everything we experience is derivative the question is from where these things are derived. We have a body, consciousness, thoughts, strength but we are none of these things, we experience them second-hand. If we think of nightly dreams as a play of ideas on substance; similarly what we perceive as reality could also be a play of ideas on substance.
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Rene's evil demon is smiling
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