The Limits of Argument

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:14 pm
Skepdick wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:48 am No argument of yours can ever change my mind.

What can change my mind is a statistically significant counter-evidence. NOT a counter-argument.
Statistics don't negate the possibility of something occuring but rather observe the occurrence of something happening a fraction of the time. Statistics observes a phenomenon occuring through fractions of time, they don't prove or disprove a phenomenon.
Statistics are usually measured over a period of time.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:14 pm Statistics don't negate the possibility of something occuring but rather observe the occurrence of something happening a fraction of the time. Statistics observes a phenomenon occuring through fractions of time, they don't prove or disprove a phenomenon.
People who depend only on their own experience have only one experience to draw conclusions from.

People who depend on statistics have many experiences to draw conclusions from.
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Skepdick wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:17 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:14 pm Statistics don't negate the possibility of something occuring but rather observe the occurrence of something happening a fraction of the time. Statistics observes a phenomenon occuring through fractions of time, they don't prove or disprove a phenomenon.
People who depend only on their own experience have only one experience to draw conclusions from.

People who depend on statistics have many experiences to draw conclusions from.
You missed this line:-

People who depend only on their own experienceS have statistically MANY experiences to draw their OWN conclusions from.
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Skepdick wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:17 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:14 pm Statistics don't negate the possibility of something occuring but rather observe the occurrence of something happening a fraction of the time. Statistics observes a phenomenon occuring through fractions of time, they don't prove or disprove a phenomenon.
People who depend only on their own experience have only one experience to draw conclusions from.

People who depend on statistics have many experiences to draw conclusions from.
Yet the experience of seeing multiple experiences (stats) is a single experience one draws conclusions from.
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Re: The Limits of Argument

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bahman, Advocate, Eodnhoj7,

The point is that by being irrational you prevent reason from having an effect on you.
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commonsense wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:12 pm bahman, advocate, Eodnhoj7,

The point is that by being irrational you prevent reason from having an effect on you.
Whose reason? I am open to it.
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bahman wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:13 pm
commonsense wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:12 pm bahman, advocate, Eodnhoj7,

The point is that by being irrational you prevent reason from having an effect on you.
Whose reason? I am open to it.
Anyone’s. Now just continue to be open to anyone else’s ideas at all times.
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commonsense wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:10 pm
bahman wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:13 pm
commonsense wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:12 pm bahman, advocate, Eodnhoj7,

The point is that by being irrational you prevent reason from having an effect on you.
Whose reason? I am open to it.
Anyone’s. Now just continue to be open to anyone else’s ideas at all times.
Sure yeah. I used to think critically a very long time ago.
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commonsense wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:29 pm excitedly?

(Vocabulary fails me in paroxysms when dementia waxes.)
lol, ok I'll accept any of the above!
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