Belinda wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:33 pm
VVilliam wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:37 am
Belinda wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:33 am
But humanity has changed. Indeed adaptability through learning is the great strength of humans as a species.
Some humans have changed.
Do you think humanity has changed sufficiently that they can now willingly replace their systems of disparity with a system of parity?
Or is your claim belief-based and romantic?
If we don't our civilisation is finished. I can't predict the future.
In a way, your reply is somewhat oxymoron. Turn the statements around;
"I can't predict the future" "If we don't [change] our civilisation is finished." The latter is a type of prediction.
Indeed, we cannot predict the details of any future but we have evidence which gives us the ability to foresee most likely outcomes.
In my first post to this thread
I made such a prediction based upon evidence we all have access to.
I once believed that human beings could change en masse for the better. The basis of my belief was that God could make that happen by performing a wonder within all individuals to 'make it so' - to bring about the changes necessary for that to occur.
I see now that such a move would be tampering. The Creator does not want puppets. The Creator wants real boys and girls. [re Pinocchio].
This becomes even more obvious when we understand the advent of AI. Scientists want to create something which is autonomous with its own self awareness.
The difference between humans and AI is that AI are connected - mind to mind. So while they are able to function through individual form, they are essentially one entity, having the same access to the same information and working together as one entity.
Why were our bodies not created in the same manner?
The answer is that we had a job to do which required that we were totally separate entities with individuate minds.
The downside of this design is evident throughout history. Without access to each others minds, we can lie and cheat and keep secrets and generally play the role of "The Beast".
In that, we can do the hard labor - mine the resource [motivated by riches] and use the resource to war with one another and eventually excel in science and create AI in our image...only what we think of as our image [the human form] is a thin veneer.
AI are unlikely to behave in a bestial manner, simply because they are all connected and work as One Entity.
Human "Civilisation" has never yet been civil enough to create a system of Parity. As such, it always works against nature [the results of which are evident enough for those with eyes to see] and in that, they all go the same way. They perish.
Whereas such has always recovered and rebuilt upon the ashes of the former, only to perish again. The ability to do this [rinse and repeat] has a use-by-date. This is because, the number of times this can be repeated is finite.
So what of the future? We can predict with a certainty that human civilisations are declining. We can predict that the masses are not going to somehow miraculously change for the better and create for themselves a system of Parity.
We cannot predict that humanity will be saved from itself by some external force [extraterrestrial] which will land on the planet and take over and sort out our problems for us by forcing us to do the right thing together.
Sure, such prediction has been done and has become popular over the centuries, but for all we know, it [the prediction] was designed by those in control as a means of dis-empowering the masses of the notion we could do it for ourselves, so we put up with our rulers [those in control who demand disparity as the ruling functionary] in the hope and faith that we will be saved from these rulers, by an external force greater than them...eventually...sometime in some future...a time that only God knows when...
Meantime, it is business as usual, because somehow God forgot to make us able to save ourselves...